Would you climb this rope?

It's not whether the rope will break or not, it's whether you're confident when you're climbing on it. If that cut bothers you, you should ditch the rope, if it doesn't, don't.

I can't say without holding the rope in my hand what I would do, but it's close enough that I would definitely be in the market for a new one pretty soon.

Modern ropes really are amazingly strong. I had 1/3 of the core of a 25+ year old retired kernmantle rope (3 piece core), which had been also been used as a chew toy by a border collie. It easily held my body weight without showing any signs of strain.
 
I'd like to know how the fluffs happened?
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Climbing spurs?
 
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I'd like to know how the fluffs happened?
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Climbing spurs?

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Nope. I climbed with a polesaw hanging from my harnes.
The polepruner cought it, and...

I had another (Velocity rope) this spring, who got damaged by a polepruner too. I dropped the rope, and it accidently hit the blade of the polepruner. It was the ropesplice-end of the rope, and I was pretty high up, so there was a lot of weight on the rope. It was nearly at the end of the rope, so I didn't loose that much line by shortening it.

Sceary that a polepruner can do so much damage to your rope!!!
 
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I'd like to know how the fluffs happened?
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Climbing spurs?

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Nope. I climbed with a polesaw hanging from my harnes.
The polepruner cought it, and...

I had another (Velocity rope) this spring, who got damaged by a polepruner too. I dropped the rope, and it accidently hit the blade of the polepruner. It was the ropesplice-end of the rope, and I was pretty high up, so there was a lot of weight on the rope. It was nearly at the end of the rope, so I didn't loose that much line by shortening it.

Sceary that a polepruner can do so much damage to your rope!!!

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Peder, get a scabbard for that thing!

-Tom
 
Nope, scrap the rope!

Tomthetreeguy is right, put a scabbard, on that thing. I could tell you a horror story about a climber and a pole saw, but it would be a LOT of typing. The moral is "Don't climb with the pole saw attached to you, EVER".
 
Sorry dude

I just don't think it's that bad of damage to retire. That's just my opinion. Climbing equipment is supposed to have a 10-1 safety rating. Even with this damage you would have to shock the hell out of this line to make it break. Like back snapping shocking!

Before you guys sharpen your pitchforks and get the noose ready for me, I totally understand where you're coming from. Some climbers have no tolerance for wear on their equipment. That is the absolute safest way to climb. I feel comfortable with my equipment and inspect it every time I use it. Definitaly never good to damage your rope in any way, but there's a threshold.
 
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Nope, scrap the rope!

Tomthetreeguy is right, put a scabbard, on that thing. I could tell you a horror story about a climber and a pole saw, but it would be a LOT of typing. The moral is "Don't climb with the pole saw attached to you, EVER".

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The rope has been cut today!
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I have made a scabbard for it now. I didn't know the english word for it.
One of my good friends - a very experienced climber - has once tried a polesaw cutting his rope more than ½ way through. It was hanging above him. If fell and hit his rope (witch he was hanging in) on the way down.
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He managed to get to the stem and landyard in....
 
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It's not whether the rope will break or not, it's whether you're confident when you're climbing on it. If that cut bothers you, you should ditch the rope, if it doesn't, don't.

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good point! it's how it can mess with your mind sometimes more than whether the rope is actually compromised...
 
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Nope, scrap the rope!

Tomthetreeguy is right, put a scabbard, on that thing. I could tell you a horror story about a climber and a pole saw, but it would be a LOT of typing. The moral is "Don't climb with the pole saw attached to you, EVER".

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So true I have heard the story first hand myself, don't do it.
Scotty
 
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Nope, scrap the rope!

Tomthetreeguy is right, put a scabbard, on that thing. I could tell you a horror story about a climber and a pole saw, but it would be a LOT of typing. The moral is "Don't climb with the pole saw attached to you, EVER".

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So true I have heard the story first hand myself, don't do it.
Scotty

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What is the story????!

My tool-attachement eyes on my (treemotion) harness should brake, if the tool/polesaw gets cought by a falling branch....
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Sorry dude

I just don't think it's that bad of damage to retire. That's just my opinion. Climbing equipment is supposed to have a 10-1 safety rating. Even with this damage you would have to shock the hell out of this line to make it break. Like back snapping shocking!

Before you guys sharpen your pitchforks and get the noose ready for me, I totally understand where you're coming from. Some climbers have no tolerance for wear on their equipment. That is the absolute safest way to climb. I feel comfortable with my equipment and inspect it every time I use it. Definitaly never good to damage your rope in any way, but there's a threshold.

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Well put. I agree.
 
I vote for continued use of the rope:

1) It looks to be pretty new;

2) that careful analysis of the damage (by my counting,
there are at least 8 strands of the 12 running "Z" (right-laid)
that are completely unscathed or nearly so; can't see so well
the opposite lay but they seem no more/worse),
shows that of the SHEATH there is much good fibre;
to which there is the untouched core.

3) the damaged fibres are not entirely wasted, themselves
(one grey puff suggests a hard-hit strand, but the rest seem
much less so).

Is the damage nearer one end, significantly? You could work
to more often keep that end nearer the ground (so less likely,
less often, bearing strain).

HOWEVER,
>> it's the only part ... (that's bad")

is a specious reasoning: the chain's weakest link determines
its strength--a series of small dings is no more than a small
ding at any point: you don't add them up to something significant
(the rope will break in one place, not many :o)

I do recall remarking to one fellow about a BIG ding in his rope
way worse than this (and it was not a rope with a hearty core).

As for
>>> If you don't have confidence, <retire> ...

the point should be to get confidence, not just be swayed by caution;
there are cases that do lend themselves to some reasoned examination.

*kN*
 
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I would make 2 shorter lines if I didn't feel confident on the line, my life is worth more then a $100 rope.

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And your life is worth that every time, but you don't buy a new rope
every time. So, on what basis does one make the change --that's
the question. Is it all a matter of tea leaves and mood, feeling?
The rope, of course, cares nothing for this. One should realize
the new strength, the gradual degradation of strength through
use, and the effect of damage. Here I think we can assess the
damaged rope as yet retentive of sufficient strength for continued
usage, with regular monitoring of the damaged area for any signs
of worsening condition. The force that would be necessary to
break this rope would break your body sooner.

*kN*
 
Yes, but that is why I said "if I didn't feel confident on the line". I don't care if it was a new line if I didn't feel confident on a rope because it had a cut that I wasn't sure about I wouldn't climb it. But thats just me, I would rather spend $100 then thousands in medical bills or worse. I understand your point but if I was 70ft up a tree and constantly thinking is my line going to break at that cut its time for a new rope.
 
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I understand your point but if I was 70ft up a tree and constantly thinking is my line going to break at that cut its time for a new rope.

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That's how I see it. Frankly that cut doesn't look bad to me but it's not my rope. The person swinging on that rope has to make the call and it gets down to whether they can work without having to consider the weak spot. You have to trust it 100%. If you don't, the price of a new one is cheap... and you can never have too many ropes.
 
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