Whole Tree Chipper Two Man Minimum Rule Adoption?

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Re: Whole Tree Chipper Two Man Minimum Rule Adopti

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3-4 men to feed one big tree or branch to it?

You betcha!

Makin good coin left and right!


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Would you agree that using that methodology (to feed a chipper) nowadays is archaic and inefficient? I don't pay Worker's Comp premiums on my miniskid. Just sayin'
 
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Depends on whether you have a crane or a bobcat about?

If not?

Sure I'd still put a four man team feeding an 1800 at near capacity no sweat.

In fact I'd join them and rattle the engine right out of it again!

Though rumor has it Vermeer's solved that engine rattling loose problem back in the mid 90's.

jomoco
 
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Hey, that Alabama certified crane operator hotshot with no tree experience starts insulting an extremely experienced crane assisted removal veteran whose twice his young punk age?

At least I told the truth about that crane flippin that day was entirely my fault for giving him what he was demanding from me, knowing full well it was too much by a hefty factor. Did it out of sheer cussed meanness with malice of intent.

Worst mistake of my career losin it that way, no doubt. Lucky for me the only human damages were my Alabama friend breaking his cool sun glasses in half when he faceplanted into the control cab's front windshield as his world turned upside down.

It was of some credit to the youngster that he told the unvarnished truth about him being totally wrong in demanding the entire tree, whereas i was arguing to give him half of it at that lateral distance from a 30 ton crane's center pin.

Didn't kill anybody or nothin. The crane company admitted the accident was their operator's fault entirely. That had he heeded my orders rather than arguing with me? The accident would not have happened.

But that's no excuse at all. It was my fault as foreman on the job for not sending his punk butt back to his company the minute he ticked me off so royally.

One thing's certain though beyond doubt. I too am prone to mistakes that could be fatal but for luck and circumstance smiling and falling in my favor.

Knock on wood.

Scuttle butt at the crane company was that my friend quit them of his own accord a few weeks later due to his fellow CO's ribbing him bout his newest nick name acronym of CCO. That in his case was short for mister Crane Comin Over.

Life can indeed be cruel at times for those of us susceptible to errors, mistakes, circumstances, at various times over the course of our careers.

Certified crane operators being no exception to this generally accepted and acknowledged rule of life.

jomoco
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Wow :crazy
 
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Howza bout some reciprocatin here Marquis?

I asked you a very pertinent question.

Have more chipper operators been eaten alive than crane ball riders killed?

Got a number?

Nationally?

Internationally?

I'll research that, and get back to yu with some hard data okay?

Thanks,

jomoco

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My guess is few if any have been killed from riding the ball.

Just pointing out that osha hasnt always been on the cutting edge of tree work.

I would like to know of the chipper fatilties how many were running the properly or did something wrong.
Someone talked about feet first from kicking material in, I told by one of our dealers that that was a big cause of fatilties.

This conversation has gone beyond pointless.
You are kind of like talking to aerial arborist.

You should really take the advice of those here, sounds like you have some very unsafe practices going on behind your chippers, people running chippers shouldn't be needed to be rescued that often.
 
Re: Whole Tree Chipper Two Man Minimum Rule Adopti

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3-4 men to feed one big tree or branch to it?

You betcha!

Makin good coin left and right!


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Would you agree that using that methodology (to feed a chipper) nowadays is archaic and inefficient? I don't pay Worker's Comp premiums on my miniskid. Just sayin'

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That's why we don't own and would not buy a chipper with out at least a winch on it, crane crews get grapple chippers with winchs too. One person can very safetly, comfortably, and efficiently feed very large material into the chipper while never putting themselfs in dangerous situations.
Too many variables to make a blanket rule.

What about a three man crew. One is climbing, one on a mini, other on the chipper? The mini feeds all the large material into the chipper, the chipper op just runs the chipper and throws the small stuff in. That sounds much safer then three people fighting huge limbs in such a way that then end up getting thrown into the chipper.
 
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Why can't you meet halfway since this rule would only apply to hand feeding a WTC?

I don't quite get it?

Your essentially demanding the right to have solo chipper operators hand feed your WTC's because of your mistaken insistence that your super operators make no mistakes?

You like Russian roulette or somethin?

jomoco
 
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There is no halfway. Rules are black and white to lawyers. If this rule went into effect we wouldn't even be able to throw a stick into the chipper without 2 people even if we are feeding the big branches in with a skid steer.
 
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Yeah well if climbers riding the ball got OSHA protections at the half way point?

Say 1926.502 section?

It just proves you guys think solo WTC operators lives don't mean as much to you as those poor climbers risking their precious lives ridin plush elevators?

You meet halfway for climbers enthusiastically enough!

But solo chipper operators? No no they're on their own?

Got somethin gainst groundies or somethin?

jomoco
 
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Jomoco,

You've had your run, this horse is dead. Thread is locked.

Your idea that anyone who doesn't march to your lockstep doesn't care about a life really is alienating...to put it in polite language.

All you've done for page upon page is to argue, change topics and ignore polite questions about the inconsistencies in your logic.

The next time I hear anything about this issue should only be at
The Z133 meeting next October.

You've had the opportunity to use TreeBuzz as a platform about this topic for long enough.
 
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