Where is that big spiderlegs thread please?

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right! i didn't pull up the pick and super enlarge the photo to look for a half hitch. personally i don't care that much. and daddy o you are THE retard: you still have to try, and i emphasize the word: TRY to be cool on the internet. are we supposed to bow at your greatness? cause dude i've worked with cranes that will pick up the largest crane you've ever and i mean ever worked with and sit it 200' away; so if your good, then cool; if not, then don't get killed. nice pick, if it really didn't do anymore damage.

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hey treetard. you using these cranes for tree work? if not then you just blah blahblah.

actually been using the 4115gmk the past few days. what crane you got thats going to put that 200ft away?

wtf are you talking about being cool on the internet? you think i give a rats what some stiff from eastbumf uck tn thinks? as far as i am concerned you inbred hillbillies are subhuman anyway.


lets get back to this giant waste of a time practice and talk more about spider slings!
 
You guys are cracking me up, I don't care who is right or wrong I am just enjoying the shat out of this. Honestly please don't stop, this is some funny stuff. Thank you all. Great when guys can have some laughs and not take themselves too seriously.
 
iccabod 1250 ton stiff leg derrick: the largest on the east coast, tc 1300, link belt 11-320 sky horse.............. and the list goes on and on and on and on all the way down to an 18 ton p&h from the seventies with 62' of stick that we use for tree work. if your into cranes check out the videos they are pretty cool. http://www.barnhartcrane.com/ab_video.html
 
You're hard work Justin, you know that?

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you only really need 2 slings.

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I dont recall anyone saying otherwise, do you?

Give me any sling-setup you want, I'll happily work it all day everyday, like getting back on a bicycle.

But give me a choice and I'll opt for knotted rigging, where I can set the bite at any point in the line, long or short, non of that half-hitching shite.

How long does it take to tie a knot anyway? seconds, a minute....

Over the course of a day thats not a huge sacrafice.

We cant all like the same thing, really doesn't matter does it?
 
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I thought tying knots in nylon straps was a no no.
No?
Wouldnt that reduce the breaking strength of the strap by 1/2?

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I dont mean tie knots in the straps Jessie, I mean the slings, spiders or whatever you want to call them.....the subject of the thread, you know!
 
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You're hard work Justin, you know that?

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you only really need 2 slings.

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I dont recall anyone saying otherwise, do you?

Give me any sling-setup you want, I'll happily work it all day everyday, like getting back on a bicycle.

But give me a choice and I'll opt for knotted rigging, where I can set the bite at any point in the line, long or short, non of that half-hitching shite.

How long does it take to tie a knot anyway? seconds, a minute....

Over the course of a day thats not a huge sacrafice.

We cant all like the same thing, really doesn't matter does it?

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Reg, this is the best advice that I've heard so far on this thread.

Thanks
Chris
 
reg. i chit you knot. if i was to try to incorporate the time it takes to set this madness up i would be told to take it down the road. lol.


all these extra minutes do in fact add up. now that ive had the chance to run some crane and sit and take in the whole operation from that particular view how long you think its going to take the average ground man to monkey around the piece trying to untie them and then get the ball back to the climber only to watch him fumble around looking for and setting slings when its kinda clear that "here and here" would be just fine.

and then you add in the underpowered saw use. up there slicing and dicing away trying to avoid the pinch when in fact a bigger saw with the powerhead on the correct angle and its a quicker cut.

time man. can't keep that crane waiting on you!
 
Yeah, you're probably right, but I still agree with Reg's opinion.

oldirty, I looked at a bunch of your work photos over at the Marquis facebook and wanted to tell you how good they are.

Great work. Looks like you guys have an excellent crew. Thanks for sharing with us.

You look familiar too, did I meet you down at Mayer's Arbo party this year or last year when Mark C came up?
 
Jeff C, cool post. I believe you used to do alot of steel work, and then switched over into treesand climbing. That seems like an unusual career path. Like you went from something easier to something harder. Just curious as to your thinking on this subject, if you don't mind.
 
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now that ive had the chance to run some crane and sit and take in the whole operation from that particular view

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cool, did you enjoy it?
 
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reg. i chit you knot. if i was to try to incorporate the time it takes to set this madness up i would be told to take it down the road. lol.


all these extra minutes do in fact add up. now that ive had the chance to run some crane and sit and take in the whole operation from that particular view how long you think its going to take the average ground man to monkey around the piece trying to untie them and then get the ball back to the climber only to watch him fumble around looking for and setting slings when its kinda clear that "here and here" would be just fine.



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Ok now we’re getting to it. It really depends on who’s up there doesn’t it, and how that individual makes the best of a situation?

For simple, repetitive lifts then 1-2 chokers are just fine. But with that system to a greater extent the tree will often dictate to the climber how much he can capture at once, due to shape and orientation of the load....if he is looking for clean smooth lifts that is. But spider-legs, or stabilizers as I prefer to call them, the climber is hindered only by gross weight and not the other.

The first sequence show a 4 ton lift from a few months back, a sprawling poplar top to say the least. 1-2 chokers? forget about it, 3 yes but getting the fixed lengths of slings to bite at the same time would be quite fiddly. Hence, the stabilizers/spiders really come good in that situation. However, not every climber might have recognised that awkward shaped top could be released so gently, and perhaps would’ve opted for 4 separate but easy lifts or 2+2 at once, which is most logical with chokers but a waste where you have spiders at hand.
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I guess where people are replacing chokers with spiders to do a job in the exact same manner, then I agree that wouldn’t really be moving forward if they were doing just fine anyway....But if the incentive is to produce larger smoother lifts where it otherwise wouldn’t be safe to do so, then that’s not such a bad thing to shoot for.
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One thing’s for sure though, all climbers and crane ops are not on a par so the best opportunities are not always spotted, whatever the slinging configuration.

And FWIW, I’d happily work with you guys Justin, whichever way you wanted it done I promise it would be seamless.

It’ll take me a few minutes to embed these photo’s, about 5-6 of them. Thanks
 

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The thing you have to keep in mind Reg is this company likes to roll with the climber on the ball. So, they think running the tree is wasted time. Hence they would always say that legs are too time consuming.

No matter how you put it, it really boils down to the space you have to put the pick. If you pick a 20 footer and only have 10 foot to put it then you've wasted your time.
 
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The thing you have to keep in mind Reg is this company likes to roll with the climber on the ball. So, they think running the tree is wasted time. Hence they would always say that legs are too time consuming.

No matter how you put it, it really boils down to the space you have to put the pick. If you pick a 20 footer and only have 10 foot to put it then you've wasted your time.

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I got no problem with that Ed, but riding the ball is not lawful everywhere, so one has to look at other ways at making the best of a situation. The Spiderlegs is a technichue that can be very effective under the right circumstances....under the wrong circumstances yeah it can be a waste of time too, but thats down to the guy up there.
 
tree work is way easier than ironwork. my tool belt weighed about fifty pounds without bolts and safety was very marginal. hell i cut the end off one finger (it got reattached) in 2007 and fell 19 feet on to concrete in 2001 and torn a muscle in my back in 2005. i got to work on the two largest construction projects to date: the snake river clean up project $58 billion dollars and the city center project in las vegas $5.9 billion dollars. after vegas i hit a wall there was no bigger iron to set. in vegas we were setting 300' clear span trusses with twin Manitowoc 2250's with maximizer trays the connections took about 300 to 400 bolts apiece on the mall/casino side. there were no real trees in vegas and when i came home there was a storm and i started helping clean up: the rest as they say is history.
 
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