vt causing twisting in rope

[blacktopp]

ok iv heard of that too and yes can someone post a pic of it tied up

 

[easyphloem]

I don't know if there is a wrong way to tie the XT (I hope not).

I put four wraps, take a 360degree braid of the hitch cord on itself, and do a normal plait under that. Keeps the four wraps tight and moves the hitch like an inchworm.


SZ

 

[Tr33Climb3r]

Someone told me that the VT once you get the top four wraps you alternate over under over under with one of the eye ends...well when it comes to my last over under i put the same end in the over again so it becomes the 4 wraps then over under over over...i find that with my hitch climber the straighter the rope is fed into the pulley the less twist you get...I am sure that it is the same for any eye and eye setup with a pulley underneath

 

[TLHamel]

In my experience the X.t. creates more twisting than the V.t. or Valdotain. This is because you remove a bit of the "presentation friction" when tying the X. Remember, the top wraps do the grabing and the lower braids present the the rope to the wraps. Whenever I need to rappel more than a short distance, I place a friction device onto the tail of my rope such as a figure 8. My first choice is a Yates Belay Slave; it routes the rope with slightly less bend.

http://www.treebuzz.com/forum/images/upload/149976-Belayslave1.jpg

 

[treeguyID]

I want to see the XT as well it has only been explained to me I have never seen it

 

[Drew]

XT

 

[KentuckySawyer]

Sexy looking cordage there Drew.

Thats got all the good stuff in it right? Only available to Kiwis?

 

[FlashTreetop1]

Drew what is that cordage called???? It is sexy looking.

D.W.H

 

[TLHamel]

[ QUOTE ]
XT

[/ QUOTE ]

The X.t. can be tied many ways (probably with as many different names). I tie mine with the 'x' on the final braid.

 

[Tr33Climb3r]

I just tied something like that the other day and it worked very well...it looks a little different though...I will post a pic after work today

 

[canopyboy]

This is what I've been using as the XT. This is a link sent to me by Moss.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/naturejournal/sets/72157604447052933/

I just finished my first eye-to-eye splice in 8mm Bee Line yesterday, and it came out great. I took a picture of it tied in the XT on my hitchclimber last night. I will try to post it when I get home.

 

[canopyboy]

Oh, and on the braid I wrap the leg that goes in the opposite spiral of the wraps under the leg that goes with the wraps. This seems to help cancel out the twist on the rope a bit.

 

[canopyboy]

1st Picture

 

[canopyboy]

2nd Picture

 

[Tr33Climb3r]

Here is what i end up tying and using...it works very well and grabs right away

pic 1

 

[Tr33Climb3r]

Pic 2

 

[Tr33Climb3r]

Pic 3

 

[easyphloem]

[ QUOTE ]
Here is what i end up tying and using...it works very well and grabs right away

pic 1

[/ QUOTE ]


Thats the one I like tying. I use the HRC with the Tacyon too, it works well together.


SZ

 

[Tr33Climb3r]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Here is what i end up tying and using...it works very well and grabs right away

pic 1

[/ QUOTE ]


Thats the one I like tying. I use the HRC with the Tacyon too, it works well together.


SZ

[/ QUOTE ]

that it does

 

[Grais]

As stated by blink, short ropes make for happy times. if you always have a big bunch of rope sitting there coiled or flaked at the base of the tree you should look at seriously using some shorter ropes.
I know cutting a 150 apart seems crazy but if you are only ever 30-40 ft up you'll get two ropes that will server you just as well as the one 150', and you will be able to wrap the rope easier and quicker as it wont be all twisted up and what not.
Have fun and stay safe.
-Grais.