Veggi Oil

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maarten

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Aquitaine, France
A couple of years ago, that is about four years ago. I picked up the idea at arborist site of using organic based oils to lubricate my saw chains.

I like the idea of not spreading around mineral oils all around the sweet places i work and inhaling the spray of an oil we actually eat all the time made better sens to me too.

Also the availability is practical. Any alimentary shop or kitchen for that matter can get tings running smooth again.

People have been telling me that because the oil is thinner and less sticky the chain will be lubricated less and thus wear out faster. I haven't noticed a severe wearing on chains, bars or drive train.. But maybe others have different observations?

However now that i am digging deeper in my old 200T i find that the goo that is built up in and around the oil pump and the brake leaver mechanism seems the be quite a tough gum resin. And seems as a result to have put quite some strain on the parts. Basically the pump died and the leaver had seen better days.
All could have been overcome with a more thorough maintenance over time. Not that it realy matters for the machine brought up his moneys worth.

At any rate while cleaning the stuff of all the interior and rethinking some thing that became a habit. I can now only conclude i really like the VEGGI OIl in me saws!

Any other veggi oil users out there?
 
I used grocery store veggie oil when I was running saws every day. After I moved and had the saws in storage [they went into storage with dry fuel/oil tanks] and fired them up I found that two of the saws had clogged/jammed oil pump mechanisms. When I opened them up I found the same thing as Maarten, thick, gooey sludge that was NOT easy to clean off. I used oven cleaner to soften it. Then hot, soapy water and brushes to clean up the chassis of the saw.

Since I don't use my saws regularly I've gone back to using the cheapest motor oil in the chain lube.

If I was running the saws regularly I think that I would use veggie again but keep a closer eye on the gunk buildup.

There was no noticeable chain or bar wear from using veggie oil either.
 
I am a fan of Canola oil in my saws. I realized one day that the chain lube is an open system therefore everytime you fill the oil tank, you are essentially dumping that amount of petroleum on the ground, the tree, and your clothes and lungs. And how about your fingers, face, toolboxes, climbing ropes, etc. Then you bring it home with you.
Going with canola has not harmed my saws in any way that I have noticed(200T, 335xpt, and 372XP). Chain stretching and bar wear seem to be caused by unsharp teeth, not lubricant.
It stays fluid like a winter weight oil until about 10 deg F.

It smells good.

Same price or cheaper than standard bar oil.
 
When trimming Mangroves in a riparian environment, Florida law requires utilizing non petroleum based oils as bar oils. I use canola. I try to make a point of using it whenever I'm working anywhere near a waterfront environment. Saws (echo 360t and echo ppt 265) seem to like it just fine. I'm thinking of switching to it full time.
 
I am using the stuff from baileys. The biodegradable motion lotion. I buy it in the case form and have been using it climbing and logging. It in all my saws, from the 372's down to the wee echo and I really like it. I also enjoy telling clients that I am using it. They are all pretty impressed... it is a green industry after all.
 
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I am using the stuff from baileys. The biodegradable motion lotion. I buy it in the case form and have been using it climbing and logging. It in all my saws, from the 372's down to the wee echo and I really like it. I also enjoy telling clients that I am using it. They are all pretty impressed... it is a green industry after all.

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I found the other Bailey's veg.oil was a mess. Never tried the Motion Lotion. How is the flinging?

I use Stihl BioPlus and am satisfied. Costs more, but is cheap always best?
 
The flinging (or clinging) action of the bio motion lotion bar oil is pretty good. It doesnt end up all over the place (which I think is good). To be honest I am curious to see how it does in the winter time, when I would usually switch to the winter grade oils....
 
I like the stihl bioplus bar and biofuelhpmix. ihow many times have you seen fuel hit the ground when filling saws.bioplus is great for cleaning sap on hand saw to.
 
Have any of you tried mixing a detergent in with the veggie oil?

There are a number of biodegradable detergents available that should help with the gumming and also keep sap from sticking to the chains.


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Give me a couple of days to find the paper I had with that information, it is in my desk here somewhere. IIRC it was just basic detergent type degreasers you can buy at just about any store. I think it did list some brand names.


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I admit I haven't read this whole thread. A few times I have had to work over koi ponds and used veggi oil in the saws. In order to be as conscience of my objective we used the oil a day before to make sure it was cleaner than not. The home-owner was appreciative of our awareness.
 
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