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Should we care so much about urban trees. Other than the local benifits, the trees that really help the planet are in the forest. We could modify our forest use practices, turn agriculture into agri-forestry, and limit suburban sprawl. Once humans move into an area they seem to become the dominate spieces, and the trees have to be managed to their needs. So is it such a big deal when an urban tree needs to be removed.
 
Trees in urban areas function like the public utilities reducing stormwater runoffs, improving air quality, and reducing energy consumption.


grant it there are species that are better suited for city life and planners have to put that into the overall plan when developing areas and creating parks.

they help cool heat island, reduce wind speed, reduce sun glare.

I would not live in atlata without trees.

are we sure the forests will stay forests and not soon become urban forests?

preserve the trees that you can.

A community’s urban forest is an extension of its pride and community spirit.

jz - warming in front of a fire - talking to baby sister
 
Trees in towns and cities provide shelter from wind and help buffet noise from traffic. They soften the hard edges of buildings and create a more pleasing environment in which to live.

Children can learn about the trees in a town or city and learn about nature through looking at trees. Trees can hold river banks together through their root systems and stop erosion of the river banks.

Trees provide a valuable sign of the changing of the seasons again creating a natural ambience. They provide valuable habitat for animals.

It is vitally important we continue to plant millions of trees in our cities.
 
I saw a bumper sticker once the said "A City Without Trees Isn't Fit For A Dog"

The Urban forest is an under utilized resource for timber production in addition to all the other benefits mentioned. I think more emphasis should be placed on developing urban forests.
 
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More arborists should plant trees, we know how to plant trees better than landscapers do.

I have this idea for dropping millions of small trees with cone shaped root balls out of aeroplanes above all the major cities in the world. For safety reasons each civilian would be supplied with a cone shaped hat like a witches's hat to deflect the trees into the ground.

I think it would work.
 
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I have this idea for dropping millions of small trees with cone shaped root balls out of aeroplanes above all the major cities in the world. For safety reasons each civilian would be supplied with a cone shaped hat like a witches's hat to deflect the trees into the ground.

I think it would work.

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Another good reason to have helmets with you at all time.
 
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I have this idea for dropping millions of small trees with cone shaped root balls out of aeroplanes above all the major cities in the world. For safety reasons each civilian would be supplied with a cone shaped hat like a witches's hat to deflect the trees into the ground.


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That's a lot of expense shipping all that dirt. Just think how many bare root trees you could fit on those planes. You know since all trees have huge tap roots they should fly just like Jarts (lawn darts) and hit perfect. The PPE you suggested would still be required of course.
 
So, you think it might work? I mean if everyone around the world was in agreement?

I'm thinking a hard plastic perforated cone for the roots and soil of the small trees to sit in, packed in tightly so it they didn't fall apart mid flight. The hard plastic dropped from say...35000 ft would render the missile trees capable of penetrating asphalt, concrete and tarmac as well as grassy areas.

I reckon the civilian's hat would be constructed of a lightweight plastic composite. Re-cycled WW2 air raid sirens could be brought back into use specifically as a warning for people to place the hats on their heads.

People with wide shoulders such as MB would just have to construct custom plywood shoulder pads as the budget probably wouldn't stretch to shoulder pads for every wide shouldered person.

I dunno, its a possibilty, we'll just have to wait and see.
 
Planting from planes has been experimented with, with some success. My latest promotional plan is an idea stolen from Tree Canada, they used to have a tree starting kit. It included a couple paper cups, a small amount of soil, and a sugar type packet of seeds, and instructions. They sold them for $1.50 per kit. I thought I could put my logo on some cups and give them to 6th grade classes in the target neighborhoods. Nice way to create some buzz and get some trees started, cept they will probably all get planted in the wrong location. I doubt I will do it but maybe someone likes the idea.
 
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I thought I could put my logo on some cups and give them to 6th grade classes in the target neighborhoods. Nice way to create some buzz and get some trees started, cept they will probably all get planted in the wrong location. I doubt I will do it but maybe someone likes the idea.

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Sounds good, what about covertly hiding tree seeds in chip packets and candy wrappers so that when kids throw them away the seeds germinate where the empty wrappers end up and degrade thus creating a free citywide tree planting scheme.

Re the witches hat design for deflecting the treecone missiles. I reckon if all the members here put their mind to it we could create a Kevlar upper body shield which would negate the need for a one off and rather expensive pointy hat. The Kevlar body shield could be put to use after the mass plantings for street parades and visits to Mecca etc.

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I'm thinking a hard plastic perforated cone for the roots and soil of the small trees to sit in, packed in tightly so it they didn't fall apart mid flight. The hard plastic dropped from say...35000 ft would render the missile trees capable of penetrating asphalt, concrete and tarmac as well as grassy areas.


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They could be like those plastic covers that they store the single roses in, should the container be bidegradable so those that are dropped and do not get planted do no harm to the enviroment?

seed packets in food is somewhat been done but most packets get put into drawers and forgotten about.

some wonderful ideas here - just like dropping turkeys out of planes for thanksgiving.
 
Every tree that's subtracted from a city's ecosystem means some particulate pollution that should have been filtered out remains. I've heard it said that a big tree can do 60 to 70 times the pollution removal of a small tree.

A large tree can also be a freestanting antiflood resevoir. Large trees can intercept rainfall through uptake and evaporation decreasing storm water management.

But most importantly (especially here) is the thermometer.
Tree canopies shade asphalt and other city hardscapes which would otherwise absorb thermal energy and then radiate it back, contributing to the heat island effect.

Most of this info. is paraphrased from an article I remember reading awhile back, but the more I learn of the importance of our urban forests the more I tend to agree. After all, would you want to live in a city with No trees?

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