tying an eye in rigging line

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What knot do you all prefer to tie an eye in a rigging line, to install a retrievable block?
After loading I would like to be able to untie the loop without it jamming up do to heavy rigging.
Temporarily I have been taking a large bight of rope and tying a bowline. I know there are better knots out there that don’t take up as much room in the block and that untie nicely after loaded from rigging.
If I’m not mistaken they mentioned some type of bowline in the arbormaster series, But they didn’t show a close up of how they tied it. I may have to review that again it been awhile
 
Ian, if you are usng a block that can be opened, then try a double fishermans knot.. Remember that it is hard to untie after loading but will come apart easily if it can be slid off the sheve before untieing.
 
Double bowline on a bight is good if there is room.
Use it quite often to rip stumps and pull tree over and rarely have difficulty untieing. Once in awhile it takes the persuader.
 
If there is room, a 3 loop bowline can't be beat.
If there is only room for a single loop, then a Yosemite bowline is my choice.

What exactly do you mean by "retrievable"? Static retrievable, or secured to a separate line?
 
Thanks Guys,
Yess I meant Static retrievable. Norm could you attach a link or picture to those bowlines.
Thanks, Ian
Ps Steve how is the surfing have you been out lately?
 
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Here is a link to the Yosemite - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yosemite_bowline

Attached is a 3 loop bowline. It's a double bowline utilizing the 'doubled tail' as the 3rd loop. If I have to tie a bullet proof loop in a rope, this is it.

For a static retrievable false crotch, a stationary bowline with a Yosemite tie off is what I use.

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That is m y first choice as well... great knot.. little strength loss, never locks up...
 
There is a cool knot almost like an alpine butterfly that I don't know the name of. I've heard it called a 'blackwater'. But it is better because it neither slips nor binds so it is easy to remove even after loading.
I'll see if I can find an image or a vid.

Oh..... I just paid attention. This is a mid-line loop and not what was asked. Sorry. But its a cool knot anyway.
 
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There is a cool knot almost like an alpine butterfly that I don't know the name of. I've heard it called a 'blackwater'. But it is better because it neither slips nor binds so it is easy to remove even after loading.
I'll see if I can find an image or a vid.


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Circus bowline?
 
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When using a retrievable block I rarely put enough load on a bowline to sieze it... that includes top-roping whole trees.

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can be used for setting a redirect mid-line as well.. loading with a truck etc..

and what does "top-roping whole trees" mean?
 
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There is a cool knot almost like an alpine butterfly that I don't know the name of. I've heard it called a 'blackwater'. But it is better because it neither slips nor binds so it is easy to remove even after loading.
I'll see if I can find an image or a vid.


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Circus bowline?

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Not sure. It may very well be a well-known knot by a different name. I learned it from Dwayne Neustater. I made a short vid to show it.

http://youtu.be/g1a604ztgrY

And I totally get that this doesn't answer the initial question, but it's a cool knot to know anyway.
 
I just about fell of my chair that was funny. Nora cool knot, looks a little like the alpine butterfly.
 
Nice video but I couldn't really see
how you made the knot.
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There is a cool knot almost like an alpine butterfly that I don't know the name of. I've heard it called a 'blackwater'. But it is better because it neither slips nor binds so it is easy to remove even after loading.
I'll see if I can find an image or a vid.
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Not sure. It may very well be a well-known knot by a different name. I learned it from Dwayne Neustater. I made a short vid to show it.

http://youtu.be/g1a604ztgrY

And I totally get that this doesn't answer the initial question, but it's a cool knot to know anyway.

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That is a cool knot, Nora -- aka ABOK 153, Artillery Loop. It's long been a rigging knot favored by many. However, it should be said, Moray did some testing on it two years ago and found it to be directional. That is, it works great in one direction but, under extreme load, jams in the other direction. I forget which direction. Maybe Moray will chime-in and re-post his test results.

EDIT: Ashley also called it a "Man-Harness Knot", which might be a better name considering the comments of your cameraman.
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