Turn over on the Buzz

Jamin_Mayer

Jamin_Mayer

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I'm wondering if any of us regulars are paying attention to our "turnover" rate here? I see and communicate with people who just leave and don't come back because of the drama.

Also, has anyone picked up on the amount of people comming into the Buzz just to talk trash?

I believe we are comming across as arrogant(as a whole). I think we are creating a reputation that is exclusive and arrogant.

Is there something we can do to improve this atmosphere?

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I've noticed it just in reading a few comments on a topic. People need to respect others on here and not belittle them. I've held back from asking things just cause I know some people will come in and talk trash. Hopefully things can change!
 
I like the exclusive part, I feel we have the smartest and best in the biz that hang out here. Unfortunately theres a lot of trash talking thats tolerated here, and its not helping. I am guilty of talking trash.

Lets change our way.
 
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I'm wondering if any of us regulars are paying attention to our "turnover" rate here? I see and communicate with people who just leave and don't come back because of the drama.

Also, has anyone picked up on the amount of people comming into the Buzz just to talk trash?

I believe we are comming across as arrogant(as a whole). I think we are creating a reputation that is exclusive and arrogant.

Is there something we can do to improve this atmosphere?

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I think just brining it up is a great start.
 
It's normal to have turn over in any group. There's nothing to worry about.....just watch it flow and stick your paddle in the water every now and then to guide it along.
 
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It's normal to have turn over in any group. There's nothing to worry about.....just watch it flow and stick your paddle in the water every now and then to guide it along.

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I like Dan's approach.

I'm also with Sam. I too won't bring stuff up sometimes.
 
You guys should visit the MMA sherdog forum,its blatant disrespect.The buzz is so tame copared to it.Alot of people say things on the net they would never say face to face.Its really a total lack of respect and just hiding behind a screen trying trying to drum up stuff.Im sure if some of the junk was said in person there would be many a fat lip.
 
I got bullied a lot when I was a kid. It took a long time to learn that the best way to take away a bullies 'power' was to ignore them. Since being on the web I know that it is the same thing.

Back on the original ISA forum there were a couple of real knuckleheads. They were hard to ignore. The regulars got together behind the scenes and agree to a shunning. No one would utter a word when they posted. If someone did get sucked in we would PM them and let them in on the shunning. It worked...the knuckleheads went away real quick and things got back real quick!

Any forum has core participants and a feeling. Mark and I try to leave it up to people to act decent. Sometimes they don't though.
 
its funny in the first grade i got told to ignore the bully so many times... he kept pestering me. he didnt stop picking on me until I got fed up and threw him to the ground in an act of complete rage.. It was a great lesson. vivid in my mind as though it were yesterday. However, on the internet that cant be done, and ignoring a prick is a lot easier.
 
All of y'all are a bunch of bi#%hes. Why don't you grow a set.

Today while removing 1,100 trees and makeing 1,000,000$ before lunch I thought about how stupid and gay you all are and how amazingly awesome and good looking I am

You guys are so gay.

You know what. I'm entirely too busy to even grace you guys with my insults, let alone knowledge.
 
Sorry if I offended anyone in my last past. I was really tired and sore 3 minuets ago and I lost my cool.

Anyway. Back to the topic at hand. Whenever reading buzz new borns posts I try to remembering what it was like when I first signed up here on the buzz and I do my best to give them answers that I had always wanted and never got. I then usually reach out via pm and introduce myself, welcome them to the best tree forum in the world and tell them if they have any questions they aren't comfortably asking, then feel free to pm me or call.

I don't ask questions here anymore. Too much static and testosterone flying around. Instead I text or call one of the many friends I've made here on the buzz. It's unfortunate because a lot of people can learn from one persons questions.
 
Well, I've had my share of shots fired across my bow here and some of the shooters are now off the list of users.

I know people on "other sites" look at this one without much love but that is going to happen.

like minded folks tend to congregate. That is one of nature's laws.

Consequently not everyone will feel comfortable, nor will everyone fit in.

Then again, there will always be the square peg trying/wanting to fit into the round hole. Such people will write as FT just did (btw FT great sarcasm there!)

I have <u>never</u> felt that I shouldn't post something here because of the potential response of others.

Yeah, there have been a lot of harsh, rude and inappropriate comments but there is always something worthwhile that is offered.

Remember, sometimes ya gotta move a lot of dirt for a little bit of gold.

Something to keep in mind, if a responder to a post takes personal shots at the poster(questioning their intelligence or IQ, calling them stoopid, labeling them or the ideas, or just calling them names) then you know a couple of things about the person responding that way:
<ul type="square">[*]they are being intellectually lazy on the subject at hand
[*]they are ignorant on the subject at hand
[*]they are immature
[*]they desperately feel a need for attention
[*]or all of the above
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A wise sage once shared with me that you cannot enter into a debate with someone like that because it is like debating a 3 year old...logic will have nothing to do with their position and no matter how much logic you present them they will not change their position. They will continue to say the sky is green because they want it to be green.

Here on the buzz I had some run-ins with a couple of the famous antagonists. I quickly learned that debating them was like wrassling a pig in mud...after a while I discovered they liked it.

Needless to say,I stopped engaging them in debate.

Anyhow, Jamin, you bring up a good question. What is our turn over?

A relevant question would follow, do we lose good participants in debate as part of that turn over and do we lose a significant number of new participants because of the few argumentative/immature post(er)s?

Of course, if we can answer that what does it mean and what should, if anything, we do?
 
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its funny in the first grade i got told to ignore the bully so many times... he kept pestering me. he didnt stop picking on me until I got fed up and threw him to the ground in an act of complete rage.. It was a great lesson. vivid in my mind as though it were yesterday. However, on the internet that cant be done, and ignoring a prick is a lot easier.

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LOL Im picturing you as the kid in Christmas story...

RaCKEN ,FRACKE ,mucken ,...*&amp;^*&amp;^ ,(*&amp;^%^&amp;% ,$%($#!!!!!!

RALPHY STOP!!!!
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I've been readying the buzz for a long time before I became a member. And I've noticed if somone or myself ask a question about somthing they did or saw and wanted to know more about it, someone out there has talked about it before and they give you the link to read the forum. In my case on old forums people wander off topic a lot. Or talk harsh to others. But I guess I wouldd like to see more straight answeres on a topic even if its been brought up 10 times, its always good for a refill on knoledge and keep the topic up to date, things can change fast in our industry that we have to keep updating eachother.
 
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All of y'all are a bunch of bi#%hes. Why don't you grow a set.

Today while removing 1,100 trees and makeing 1,000,000$ before lunch I thought about how stupid and gay you all are and how amazingly awesome and good looking I am

You guys are so gay.

You know what. I'm entirely too busy to even grace you guys with my insults, let alone knowledge.

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Yup, you nailed that one Family.
 
When I came on here there was intelligence and smash talking all in one. Now at times I wonder where did that rant come from. With a wealth of free info about an industry that we all share there are going to be the mad scientists to rant and vent just ignore them. My grandma told me once " The best thing you can do to someone you don't like is smile and be nice to them" Funny watching her around the door knocking hollyrollers .
 
I have to admit sometimes when I post something I think about what people might say but I post it anyways because I like hearing input. I thought about it less when i was new on here. That being said and me being on here for only like a year and a half I can't comment much about what it was like back then because i don't know.

And if it counts for anything I am on here more than on Facebook and Facebook is a very popular site for people my age

So i would say things are good here
 
I've been the NJICEC for 16 consecutive years.

I started a long time ago, back when the NJICEC was nothing more than a dream, contests being held under ground, back alleys and old abandoned basements. There was a lot of broken plastic spoons and broken hearts back then.

Now it's all about flash. Ice cream eating in crystal and gold bowls. I keep it real. Sponge bob spoon and a retro 80's, maroon and baby blue plastic phillies ice cream batting helmet. I eat with pride, these other chump, they eat for fame.

It's just not the way it used to be.
 
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