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I just read the whole thread front to back and re-read many posts. I'm embarrassed to say I am almost hopelessly lost. Not about making it work on Runner or other devices (not there yet) but where are these ropes directed and terminated and connected?
Could anyone dumb this down for me? A simple drawing would probably drive the point home, a quick sketch w a crayon maybe?
I'd really appreciate it, thanks, and thanks for bringing it up again @Grafted_In
 
Bango Skank said:
I just read the whole thread front to back and re-read many posts. I'm embarrassed to say I am almost hopelessly lost. Not about making it work on Runner or other devices (not there yet) but where are these ropes directed and terminated and connected?
Could anyone dumb this down for me? A simple drawing would probably drive the point home, a quick sketch w a crayon maybe?
I'd really appreciate it, thanks, and thanks for bringing it up again @Grafted_In
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A crayon drawing would be awesome haha
 
I am also not quite clear on this. The one time I tried something like this with my BDB, with some thinner rappelling rope I had, I just ran the rope across a limb inside a leather cambium saver then both sides of the line thru the Bone, and had a MiniSAKA on each foot. It felt like normal rope walking but actually I was ascending only half as fast as with regular Ddrt. With each step the rope sawed back and forth thru the cambium saver as each side of the rope was pulled.
 
The video where Johnny pro explains the system and setting it up appears to have been removed, I did find a screenshot of that video that may help. 20190408_150349.webp

Two ropes are connected with a carabiner or screwlink, then each rope passes over a seperate limb, and comes back through the same carabiner/link. You can then pull on rope A or rope B while unweighted to shift where your ascent system is at along that plane.

His example in the video being that you could work multiple smaller trees that are between two larger ones. When your ready to work the next one, lanyard in slack the system and pull the carabiner over the next tree. Re-weight the system and swing to the next tree.
 
OK, I see that there is a lot more to this than simply running two ropes thru a single multiscender. Looks interesting, but does not seem much different than just using two DdRT setups. Maybe a bit less gear intensive but seems awkward if you wanted to completely retrieve one of the systems while still hanging on them and they were both captive in a single Bone or device.
 
Looks pretty awesome for the right trees... float the TIP wherever you want.

Is there any reason one couldn't set up like that up top but use normal diameter ropes and 2 multicenders?
 
Jehinten said:
The video where Johnny pro explains the system and setting it up appears to have been removed, I did find a screenshot of that video that may help. View attachment 58751

Two ropes are connected with a carabiner or screwlink, then each rope passes over a seperate limb, and comes back through the same carabiner/link. You can then pull on rope A or rope B while unweighted to shift where your ascent system is at along that plane.

His example in the video being that you could work multiple smaller trees that are between two larger ones. When your ready to work the next one, lanyard in slack the system and pull the carabiner over the next tree. Re-weight the system and swing to the next tree.
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Hahha I went all through Johnny pro looking for this and saw it was taken down and was pissed
 
Bango Skank said:
Is there any reason one couldn't set up like that up top but use normal diameter ropes and 2 multicenders?
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Bango Skank said:
Nevermind. It'll get screwed up if not adjusting both devices exactly equally.
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It might work out ok seeing how the system will be weighted. The tie in point might move an inch or two but just take slack from the other line if needed. Just use friction savers at both points to preserve the two anchor trees.

In the schultz effect there is a redirect that reminds me of this, two devices and the redirect point moves depending on which device is activated. If your redirect goes to far right, descend on the right system to swing it back to the left. I forget the name of the redirect or I'd put that in here, but it's a remote set, remote retrieve redirect that uses a second climbing system or a long lanyard.
 
Jehinten said:
The video where Johnny pro explains the system and setting it up appears to have been removed, I did find a screenshot of that video that may help. View attachment 58751

Two ropes are connected with a carabiner or screwlink, then each rope passes over a seperate limb, and comes back through the same carabiner/link. You can then pull on rope A or rope B while unweighted to shift where your ascent system is at along that plane.

His example in the video being that you could work multiple smaller trees that are between two larger ones. When your ready to work the next one, lanyard in slack the system and pull the carabiner over the next tree. Re-weight the system and swing to the next tree.
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That picture brought me back ....
 
I feel like the whole 120° thing is an elephant in the room with trt, but I love seeing people outside the box.
 
I found this picture in my files. I cannot credit the author of the photo since I don't remember where I found it, but I guess he is a buzzer...
Creative person ... Inverted twin legs tether, 2 RW, 1 ISC double pulley, 1 prussik, 2 pantin, 1 biner, 2 friction savers and 2 ropes. I don't know if it works but it's cool.
 

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Batla said:
I found this picture in my files. I cannot credit the author of the photo since I don't remember where I found it, but I guess he is a buzzer...
Creative person ... Inverted twin legs tether, 2 RW, 1 ISC double pulley, 1 prussik, 2 pantin, 1 biner, 2 friction savers and 2 ropes. I don't know if it works but it's cool.
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Yes, looks like a slick setup, I'd love to try it.
It's on page 3 of this thread, from @Pfanner man
 
Thanks Banko Skank. I only started my second reading on page 5... I guess it's time for me to start again from page 1..
 
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