Tree motion rear connector "life support".

@swingdude; With my older style Treemotion saddle that rear ring was intended to be used as an attachment point for a chainsaw lanyard. I guess so that if you were to let the saw hang, it would hang from a central location that would supposedly pull evenly on the harness. It sounds like you dislike that proposed use for that rear ring, my guess being that its because it makes it too hard to attach and detach the lanyard quickly?

So my questions are, where do you like to attach your chainsaw lanyard, and if its off to the side, doesn't that uneven pull on the saddle bother you at all?

Thanks in advance for any answers you choose to give.

Tim
 
TimBr said:
@swingdude; With my older style Treemotion saddle that rear ring was intended to be used as an attachment point for a chainsaw lanyard. I guess so that if you were to let the saw hang, it would hang from a central location that would supposedly pull evenly on the harness. It sounds like you dislike that proposed use for that rear ring, my guess being that its because it makes it too hard to attach and detach the lanyard quickly?

So my questions are, where do you like to attach your chainsaw lanyard, and if its off to the side, doesn't that uneven pull on the saddle bother you at all?

Thanks in advance for any answers you choose to give.

Tim
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TimBr said:
@swingdude; With my older style Treemotion saddle that rear ring was intended to be used as an attachment point for a chainsaw lanyard. I guess so that if you were to let the saw hang, it would hang from a central location that would supposedly pull evenly on the harness. It sounds like you dislike that proposed use for that rear ring, my guess being that its because it makes it too hard to attach and detach the lanyard quickly?

So my questions are, where do you like to attach your chainsaw lanyard, and if its off to the side, doesn't that uneven pull on the saddle bother you at all?

Thanks in advance for any answers you choose to give.

Tim
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At that shembiner ...just a convienient place...my TM fits like a glove cause I have an ass....never slides down and never comes out of adjustment....2016-08-06 07.41.17.webp
 
@swingdude; Thanks for this response. I like the look of that Shembiner, thanks for that recommendation. It sounds like you've really got your harness dialed in.

It is entirely possible that I have no_ass_at_all disease. The other possibilities are that I carry too much stuff dangling on my harness, as I tend to work alone most of the time. Also that my harness' fit is not dialed in as it should be.

I get the impression that you like to have as little stuff hanging from your harness as possible, which would in turn help to keep the harness from pulling down on you, and also help to make you more mobile. That is one of the huge advantages of working with a ground guy; having the ability to call for gear that you do not have with you. I guess its a tradeoff between the time it takes to haul stuff up into the tree versus the pain of having all the extra weight and clutter hanging from the saddle at all times. I don't generally have a choice; if I don't bring sonething with me on first ascent, I'll never have it with me. The exception is my heavier rigging gear; pulleys and rigging ropes, etc. With those, I tie them onto a 1/4" rope and leave them sitting at the base of the tree. I'll drag the lightweight 1/4" rope up with me and tie it off to a limb. In that way I can employ it later if need be, without having to drag all of that weight with me.

I was wondering if you've taken a look at the Rock Exotica Transporter, which seems similar to your Shembiner, only with the added ability to be locked closed?

http://www.rockexotica.com/catalog/category/view/id/48

Thanks for your time, Swingdude.

Tim
 
swingdude said:
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Moss Eric never gave you one...send me address in PM....fuck that ring Andrew
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Nice, thx Swing, let me know what I owe.

I hang my saw on one side or the other depending on which side of my body I'm working, I don't like the saw lanyard crossing over in front when I'm reaching hard to the opposite side. Also, if I need to put the saw down to free up my hands right after a cut I want it hanging down free, again not with the lanyard over the front. Hanging it on the back doesn't work for me, too awkward on and off and requires more lanyard length for the saw to reach everywhere it needs to go.
-AJ
 
TimBr said:
@swingdude; Thanks for this response. I like the look of that Shembiner, thanks for that recommendation. It sounds like you've really got your harness dialed in.

It is entirely possible that I have no_ass_at_all disease. The other possibilities are that I carry too much stuff dangling on my harness, as I tend to work alone most of the time. Also that my harness' fit is not dialed in as it should be.

I get the impression that you like to have as little stuff hanging from your harness as possible, which would in turn help to keep the harness from pulling down on you, and also help to make you more mobile. That is one of the huge advantages of working with a ground guy; having the ability to call for gear that you do not have with you. I guess its a tradeoff between the time it takes to haul stuff up into the tree versus the pain of having all the extra weight and clutter hanging from the saddle at all times. I don't generally have a choice; if I don't bring sonething with me on first ascent, I'll never have it with me. The exception is my heavier rigging gear; pulleys and rigging ropes, etc. With those, I tie them onto a 1/4" rope and leave them sitting at the base of the tree. I'll drag the lightweight 1/4" rope up with me and tie it off to a limb. In that way I can employ it later if need be, without having to drag all of that weight with me.

I was wondering if you've taken a look at the Rock Exotica Transporter, which seems similar to your Shembiner, only with the added ability to be locked closed?

http://www.rockexotica.com/catalog/category/view/id/48

Thanks for your time, Swingdude.

Tim
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Tim the shembiner is the bomb....easy one hand on and off the saw never comes off while ckimbing ....ever...it is a master idea...Shem ran it past me when designing the thing...never liked the idea...then he produced them and gave me 3 to try...I gifted one to the guy who did my UK certs and the other 2 are on my TM harnesses old and newer one I am breaking in slowly...I love them...never want a locking one again PITA...I only put what I need on my saddle for the job at hand....blocks and xrings come up as needed..usually I climb with lanyard...2 slings with biners ( redirects )...buck breakaway saw lanyard that is it...well pinto/biner for canopy tie if changing from base tie....and prosenti in sawpod....I prune mostly....although that is the same for removals too.....because I set my rigging as I go along....oh forgot I also climb with my coiled 2 gen footloop HAAS given to me by my awesome friend Michael.....
 
I've used the rear ring a few times in odd situations where I had to lean forward or bend over, but my TIP was not going to help me do it. I just attach my lanyard to the ring pass the snap around the branch behind me and clip it into the ring. I can reach back and adjust it in and out as needed. I can just lean into the lanyard and use 2 hands on my saw.
 
@BEH2202; Nice! I assume you've got good stability at your feet at those times, which allows you to maintain a leaning position at a particular angle? If your feet were to slip out from under you, you would pitch forward, correct? The rear ring becoming the pivot point if you lose your base at the feet? Thanks for your post, and in advance for any answers you choose to give. Really nice idea, and a use for that ring I had not thought of.

Tim

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