Tree motion failure

Sorry I am having a hard time trying to post a pic. Anyhow where I clip my saw failed yesterday. Saw feel about 75ft. Harness is about 2 years old. Looks like wear was a factor wasn't obvious though. Just a heads up to all you Tree motion owners.
 
Bummer. Hope your saw wasn't destroyed to badly. I never trusted that area of the harness for hanging saws, so I always hang my saws from the ring in the rear when flying my TreeMo.
 
rico said:
Bummer. Hope your saw wasn't destroyed to badly. I never trusted that area of the harness for hanging saws, so I always hang my saws from the ring in the rear when flying my TreeMo.
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Yeah I wondered about that, but couldn't get enough reach with the lanyard on the back. I feel that a harness should have enough overkill built into though. 1st time in 30 years. IMO I think design is being influenced by light weight, which I don't care about, instead of durability. Broke the top handle off my 150. Just glad it didn't hit my ground guys.
 
owScott said:
Yeah I wondered about that, but couldn't get enough reach with the lanyard on the back. I feel that a harness should have enough overkill built into though. 1st time in 30 years. IMO I think design is being influenced by light weight, which I don't care about, instead of durability. Broke the top handle off my 150. Just glad it didn't hit my ground guys.
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Get the full reach lanyard or build your own.
 
I short hang my saw on a shembiner mounted on just the "leather" to avoid abration on the life support webbing, but clip the end of the saw lanyard to my side d for security and max reach. I don't use my side d's for my positioning lanyard, but even if I did, I think there would be plenty of room for the saw lanyard and the positioning lanyard.
 
I wonder what Teufelberger's response would be if you sent them a note & some clearer pictures.. 2yrs of use is a pretty short life span compared to what they suggest as replacement timelines. As you stated it showed no signs of failure, so i mean, what's next.. you gonna start losing ppe points randomly?

Or is this some sort of "consumable item" that's replaceable?

Idk i think I'd send them a note.. If you can get them to respond (i never seem to be able to), maybe they'll pro-rate a new one for ya? Maybe, Maybe not? Worth a shot anyhow.. especially considering the cost of these things..
 
RBJtree said:
I short hang my saw on a shembiner mounted on just the "leather" to avoid abration on the life support webbing, but clip the end of the saw lanyard to my side d for security and max reach. I don't use my side d's for my positioning lanyard, but even if I did, I think there would be plenty of room for the saw lanyard and the positioning lanyard.
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There is. I use a chainsaw bridge from left butt cheek to right butt cheek. I do have to pass the saw behind my back to switch hands with a shorter lanyard. But I’m known to move the lanyard to the hip dee’s if I need max reach with either hand. I rarely use the lower dee’s so there is minimal conflict with the lanyard.
 
evo said:
There is. I use a chainsaw bridge from left butt cheek to right butt cheek. I do have to pass the saw behind my back to switch hands with a shorter lanyard. But I’m known to move the lanyard to the hip dee’s if I need max reach with either hand. I rarely use the lower dee’s so there is minimal conflict with the lanyard.
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The chainsaw bridge is a good idea and all the comments make sense. I am just disappointed that anything would tear off my harness in that time period. After looking more closely there seems to be enough actual material there but the points where there is pressure is small.
 
Those little pleather pad things are disappointing. I want my $500+ dollar saddle to be bomb proof. They look like they are weak. I've only had my treemo for about 6 months and no problems, but that spot does worry me.
 
Yes it is replaceable and I'll bet teufelberger will tell you to hang your saw off the rear ring....thats why I think they come with a 20$ 30kn anchor ring.
I use a rope bridge like Evo described.
 
What he said! ...saw hangs on rear ring

.. + then any type of tool hook that passes behind webbing... in the places intended!!

...i dont think that part of the harness is intended to carry a saw!!

Not sure
 
I’m afraid you’ve used that failed point incorrectly. That area is a saw stow/hitch point and like has been already said, the saw is supposed to attach to the rear.
The failure has arisen from repeated shock loading from the full weight of the saw on an area that is only designed to have the saw stowed on it .
 
stephen said:
I’m afraid you’ve used that failed point incorrectly. That area is a saw stow/hitch point and like has been already said, the saw is supposed to attach to the rear.
The failure has arisen from repeated shock loading from the full weight of the saw on an area that is only designed to have the saw stowed on it .
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so better have a look at my saw point????I always used the designated point for it,went to look at info booklet and they mark it for 10kg and should be under the webbing.
 
Naturarbo said:
it might have not happened if both rubber and webbing would be above carytool... luckily nobody got hurt
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As another person has recommended, the Recoil lanyard will give you full stretch from the rear attachment point but is actually TOO long. I cut mine down and re-knotted the end. It’s meant lanyard issues are almost eliminated and I’m never stopped from reaching a cut.
They’re a bit over-priced but nicely made .
I used to make my own but the Recoil is really lasting very well .



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owScott said:
Sorry I am having a hard time trying to post a pic. Anyhow where I clip my saw failed yesterday. Saw feel about 75ft. Harness is about 2 years old. Looks like wear was a factor wasn't obvious though. Just a heads up to all you Tree motion owners.
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There was some discussion on this topic in another thread:

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I did not know much about the saddle or what binas etc to use with it. I clipped a bina here for my chainsaw and had it there for a long time. And I learned that you are not supposed to do that when my 193 took a 40 foot fall to the concrete. I’ve worn my treemotion out by incorrect use. I’m...
www.treebuzz.com
 
Naturarbo said:
so better have a look at my saw point????I always used the designated point for it,went to look at info booklet and they mark it for 10kg and should be under the webbing.
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That's good info. I didn't read the booklet and kind of had a hunch that I should be clipped to the back ring. Its on me, so hopefully this post shows other people to not make the same mistake. Thanks for taking the time to post good info backed by facts.
 
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