Top handled chain saw training

Tom Dunlap

Tom Dunlap

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This is a link to an English HSE training manual for chain saw use. There is a big difference in the way that they
work with one handed chain saw use in the tree. In the US we prohibit the practice and turn a blind eye to its
wide spread practice. In the UK they train the climbers the best ways to use this dangerous procedure.

http://www.hse.gov.uk/research/crr_htm/2001/crr01402.htm


Does anyone know who the climber is?

Tom
 
Don't know what to say, the clicked link worked fine for me. YOu might try a copy/paste of the URL and avoid linking off of this forum. Or, sometimes I have problems following links so I start to delete parts off the right end of the URL. Try deleting sets of characters between slashes, /..../ The information is worth putting some effort into.
 
I hate this subject . It's kind of like crane riding , shouldn't do it because the crane could fail , but we'll let the same crane pick a 5 k piece of wood over are head . I encourage one hand use and I never had a problem with it and would never call it a "dangerous procedure" . On the ground there really is no excuse but in a tree , situations arise that make it a lot more safe to reach out with one hand than play "safety games" . At least the UK realizes that it is happening and are trying to deal with it instead of turning their head .
 
The main problem with one hand use is what you are doing with your other hand. In the US they make it simple- Keep both hands on the saw handles and you won't end up with one hand under the chain. This logic never worked with me and I had to figure out several safety things on my own since everything I saw and read simply said "Keep both hands on the handles".

If anyone needs a great laugh, head over to AS and see Mike Maas' response on this thread over there.
 
I always use a chain guard in the tree, this doesn't seem to be a common practise any where.
I would never consider using my climbing line for a hand line to raise and lower a saw.
 
totally agree with you, especially since that is often the fastest way to make cuts from awkward positions, if I did only things that were safe I would never leave the house and certainly would not be a climbing arborist, and for cut and chuck removals why not leave the rigging in the truck but to each his own because I had to force my climber to use a rope and not just his lanyard on "easier removals" one of which he was attacked by bees and luckily was using a rope which I did say I told you so
 
i have been a climber for 13 years and really dont know what the fuss is about.surley you must have had jobs where the is no way to lower down(ie not enough hight above roofs etc)where the only option is to cut and throw down.do you never cut wiht saw in one hand and ho;d with other?
 
Not saw related but I don't care for his biner on the rope idea for rope retrieval.
If the rope gets hung up you have to climb back up to get it.
With the running bowline and long tail you can pull it all the way through if need be.
 
One handed chainsaw use is Just lazyness or bad positioning in 99% of cases.One handed chainsaw use should never be advised.Cutting and holding the branch your cutting off is the biggest no-no in the book.One Should cut the piece almost through with the chainsaw with both hands on it and finish the cut with the hand saw if you have to do hand holds.

didj
 
laziness, hmmm, let me think about that . ok , where's the "book " is it written in english ? I want to order the "book". I'll write a "book" on cutting with one hand , I'll even add a bonus section on laziness in tree work.
 
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