Tight Eye or Girth Eye?

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I am trying to decide which type of eye splice to include "standard" on our climbing ropes. I believe girth eyes should, in theory, have more cycles to failure. Tight eyes are less bulky and look cleaner.

Informal poll: Do you prefer a tight eye in your climbing line or a "Girth" eye? And why? Is one or the other a big deal to you? Does anyone have a preference for the rubber bandit system?
 
Isn't there an ANSI recommendation that requires all attachments to biners to be cinching? Which would mean, to comply with ANSI, one must use a girth eye?????
 
Why don't you go with the large eye and those that like it use it girth hitched, and for the guys that don't, let them throw a rubber band on it and keep it tight?
 
Much prefer a tight eye; less bulky. CTF? I've never had an eye wear out anywhere near before the rest of the rope is due to retire. It's a non-issue, IMO.
 
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Why don't you go with the large eye and those that like it use it girth hitched, and for the guys that don't, let them throw a rubber band on it and keep it tight?

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Yup. That was our initial thought too. But if a large majority of climbers favor tight eyes then we might just go with that. Stocking both styles would be tricky since obviously it requires carrying twice the amount of rope.$$$

Just curious if there are any die-hard girth fans? (Any way I type that it sounds bad...)
 
I have tight eyes and have switched to the longer girth eye for it's flexibility. As it can be made into a tight eye and be used for the endless loop system and it runs smoother. Plus the girth eye is easier to splice in my opinion as someone who does their own.
 
I prefer large eye for the versatility of it. Like said before with either tape or blue bandit it can easily be made into a tight eye.
 
Versatility in what regard? The only time a large eye is good for climbing is for one particular climbing system setup when the large eye isn't clipped to your harness, rather it's ran THROUGH the harness. I don't remember the details of the whole setup, but you needed a large eye for that.

Other than the 3 people in the world that are climbing on that system, is there 1 other good reason to use a large eye?

Right now everyone sells large eyes. Even most company's small eyes are too big. I believe the trend to tight eyes is about to make a rapid advancement.

I think for a while the big sellers sold them because that's what the factories would splice without anyone really paying attention to why.

Big eyes are a little stronger, but it doesn't matter.

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My preference is for tight eyes in all climbing ropes. One end of my half inch rigging rope has a large eye so that I can girth hitch a captive eye biner. If I was going to use a plain biner for rigging I would use a tight eye.
 
I say versatility because yes for that one system you must have a large eye. I also consider it more versatile because if i cut my climbing line or part of it wears out i'm planning on turning it into a ropeguide. I don't splice so having a large eye is more versatile after the rope wears out cause you can girth hitch it to a ring for an adjustable FS. If you want to use it for a lanyard and you prefer a snap, you can girth hitch it. If its i tight eye your out of luck.

For me its more versatile. For an individual like yourself that has the talent of splicing, these extra uses don't mean much. For me i'm always looking to use gear in other purposes. Thus the reason its more versatile, for me!
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Splicing is a handy trade, one i wouldn't mind picking up, but for now i'm stuck trying to think of other uses for my gear and a large eye allows me more possibilities.
 
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