Throw ball vs Progress climb?

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When time is money and the ladder is faster and used safely you'd be wasting time and money not to use it. Every time your over 6' in the air the tie in rules should apply as far as I know. Some ladders are safer than others. Many are just too cheap, ladders and cutting don't mix but for a quick pull line or low block install and of course buildings they are the only way to go sometimes. The attachment is the one that's lasted me over 15 years of construction and tree destruction work. Ladders are rated as well this Jaws is a class 1 mine has it's rungs welded on. $500+ though and heavey.

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i can hit twenty five or thirty feet standing on the ground, in tree about twenty tops. i had a guy that worked with me for about eight months that could hit forty five on the ground and twenty five or thirty in the tree. it was awesome to watch. he even pruned well and had a drivers licence. to bad he got on the crack.
 
I can hit a good fork at 50' reliably in 3-4 tries, above that I might have to throw a bunch of times. Some trees you still have to start low and advance your TIP no matter what but with SRT I go as high as I can manage because it's harder to advance an SRT TIP.
 
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50'!!! You are a tree stud blinky.

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I got lost in the thread here, is that 50' with a monkey's fist on your line or a throwbag and throw line?

If throwlines then we do 50 footers all the time. Depending on the crap in the way it may take upwards of ten shots. but we are usually in within 5 or 6. if we are not in in 5 or 6 we'll aim for a lower TIP and recrotch from there.

We do 60 & 65 footers less frequently and the number of attempts goes up as well. Same gig, if not in within a reasonable number of shots we go lower and recrotch.

Unless it is a real clear shot or a simple pull and dump I'll break out the bigshot for most anything over 75feet.

Dave Lutes introduced me to the zen of throwline at Geezers last year and my hit percentage has gone way, way up. Most days now I'm into my chosen TIP within 3 shots and more and more frequently I have a near miss on the first try and nail it onthe second. Using a throwline cube has also made a tremendous difference.

ThanX Dave!
 
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Ladders are not to be trusted. Mostly I just use orchard ladders when shearing tall hedges (a much despised exercize). I've made it thru the last two years without setting foot on an extension ladder.

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But tie in points high in the tree you can't fully inspect are to be trusted.
I use ladders when neede d and throw line both everything has its place.

I prefer to use both at the same time. That is the best of both worlds(when it makes sense)
 
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But tie in points high in the tree you can't fully inspect are to be trusted.
I use ladders when neede d and throw line both everything has its place.

I prefer to use both at the same time. That is the best of both worlds(when it makes sense)

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Amen to that...


Tom, the zen needs to be experienced and absorbed. It cannot be written and assimilated
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Actually it was a simple little trick Dave showed me and it solved my windage aiming problems significantly. I further refined it to work with my granny style throw to eliminate imbalance in the line grip.

Next time you see me I'll show you...I honestly can't articulate it but it is basic and simple...you've probably already done some or all of it.

Its main idea centers around "natural point of aim" If you have any exposure to the shooting sports you'll have the best starting starting point.
 
If the homeowner has a ladder and we need to get on the roof we will borrow it, otherwise we have not included a ladder in our kits for the last 15 years. We have used a big shot to access TIPs up to 80'. I prefer a 8 or 10 oz with light line (UHMWP) for long shots and a 14 or 16 for the other end. Ladders are for house painters.
 
Ladders terrify me. I will go to a hell of a lot of trouble to avoid using one.

I'm not saying they are bad or good, only that I personally have a big problem with climbing ladders.
 
This just depends on the situation. Depending on the specs for the job, some climbs may require that "perfect tie in," because the structure of the canopy may not allow for an easy progress climb. And in this case it is absolutely worth it to spend a little extra time hitting that perfect crotch... But if the tree is shorter and ripe with scaffold limbs and dense branching, and you have to power blast your throwball through 2 pockets of mistletoe to hit the spot you want? ...Better to just "settle" with a solid tie in and progress climb. Absolutely.
 
I just free climbed some large healthy apple trees to a tip. Set a rope and got busy. Throw line was not working. Guy was wanting to cut the tops out (and I mean really reduced them) so he could reach the apples and try to deter the bears from them. I found it amazing how far out on the branches I found claw marks. Great job on a nice day.
 
I worked with a company that swore by progress climbing. When I went to reach for my bag, they handed me the poles. I didn't stay there long, but I left with surgical precession with pole pruners. Mind you it's the safer way to climb around conductors if you had to, which most of the work was so it wasn't all bad; it was when there wasn't any around is when I would get mad. Heres a good one, whats the longest pole you strapped together? I got 4 sections.
 
Throw lines around uninsulated electrical lines?
Nylon is the only material with poor resistance.

Polyethylene, polypropylene, polyester, kevlar and Hmpe all show good resistance to electrical conductivity.
The addition of coatings, water and soiling would change this. EUSA will know for sure what is safe.

I got 2 x 12' wood and an 8' and a 6' it snapped with the weight of a pulr head on it it has to be assembled on the up and rested on limbs. Its the only way when you are in thicket of Purging Buckthorn and felling gnarly old dead Pines.
Circus act for sure.
 
Like someomne else said, all have their time and place.

90% of the time the tool I use for access is the long hanger pole, limb to limb.
 
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I worked with a company that swore by progress climbing. When I went to reach for my bag, they handed me the poles. I didn't stay there long, but I left with surgical precession with pole pruners. Mind you it's the safer way to climb around conductors if you had to, which most of the work was so it wasn't all bad; it was when there wasn't any around is when I would get mad. Heres a good one, whats the longest pole you strapped together? I got 4 sections.

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4x 8' poles and a leaf rake! What can I say, I HATE climbing!
 
4x 8' poles and a leaf rake! What can I say, I HATE climbing!

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BigWood I know you are a crane dude, but how can a tree guy HATE climbing. I find that is the best part. I love to move around the tree with the least amount of gear possible too. Oh yeah since my summer stint in the states I been leaving the big-shot in the truck. Harrison rocket and the throw cube has been giving good results. Don't use ladders.
 
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