The Splicing Thread

Re: More questions!!

Ranger, you're right. It's basically double braid.

I've found that when I pull the inner strands, it helps if I be very careful to only pull out as much as I need. It slightly (but noticeably) distorts the rope if you pull the inner core strands out (purple, blue...any new colors?) then keep pulling another foot or so.

If you wanna do it exactly right, you can get the directions from NERs site.

love
nick
 
Re: More questions!!

Thanks Nick!! I plan on using the directions from the NER site, but I just wanted to double check. I know a lot of people freak out a bit over the splice because of the third core, but after reading the directions I think I can push my way through it. With the 24' or so Tachyon I ordered I should be able to get around 3 splices in it before I move on to my climbline, so I should be able to work out any problems that I may find before doing a splice I'll be hanging off of.
 
Re: More questions!!

The directions from NER that I have say to pull the 4 blue inner core strands. All the tachyon I have encountered has 3 purple inner core strands...
 
BlueMoon question

Quick question for you splicers out there. I just finished splicing a new 12' Blue Moon flipline. On the end with the snap I just a full fid bury and it turned out great!! Only problem us I forgot to taper the core when I buried it. I just cut it off and created a blunt it. I know I can't fix it, but I was wondering if this affect the splice at all or if I'll be ok. I stitched the splice above where I cut the core and from what I can see it all good. I just don't have that smooth taper.
 
Re: BlueMoon question

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I don't think anyone is going to give you a big high 5 and tell you to go ahead and use it, but if it were mine I would go ahead and use it.

The weakest spot in many spliced ropes is right at the end of the bury. You have made this spot a little bit weaker than it otherwise would have been. How much weaker? I don't know, and probably no one does, but probably the splice is still better than the best knot. And even if it is as bad as the worst possible knot, and the rope is only 50% as stong as it should be, it is still more than capable of breaking you in half. Do you need it to be stronger than that?
 
Re: BlueMoon question

Thanks Moray!! I still feel safe using it, as I put a full fid bury on that end and that combined with the whiplock, I have very few doubts about using it and something happening to that end. I'll try and get a few pics up here later today.
 
Re: BlueMoon question

Probably not 100% perfect, but not something that I would say has an unacceptable amount of risk to it.

If it is a climbing line, then one thing I might suggest is to cut it out and start over till it is right.

Worst case is that you will lose, what 2 or 3 feet of rope. Maintaining the absolute highest quality standards on everything you do will serve you well in life.
 
Hitch Cord.

Also, anyone have any tips on Tachyon. I'm working on my first Tachyon splice right now and so far everything has gone smoothly. I've bured the cover in the core and I buried and tapered my core, so I'm on the final bury. I did a long fid bury, and this thing is extremly hard to bury. The BlueMoon I made yesterday with the full fid bury wasn't even as hard as this.

I have the core buried totally right now, but I still have about an inch or a bit less to bury to get my correct tight eye size. Should I have gone with a shorter bury, say 2/3 or 3/4 of a long fid. This splice is practice for my climb-line splice, so I'm just curious. Want to see if I can ease the physical execration to do this final bury.
 
The last inch or two are kind of hard anyway. Lots of massaging, milking, massaging, milking, etc... make sure you milk past the throat of the splice so you don't lose your effort.

Rubber mallet!
 
My Tachyon splice

Alright, here it is, my second Tachyon splice. This one is my new climbline splice, and I feel it came out way better than the first one. I put a long fid bury on this one and I found I can remove it from an FS without any problems. Plus, I didn't even struggle as much as I did with final bury on this one.

The whiplock is also only my third try and I think it's my best one yet!! Can't wait to get out sometime and try it!!!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27762415@N03/
 
Re: My Tachyon splice

Looks pretty good to me, how long did it take you to do that one. Those deep burys on a tight eye like that are tricky sometimes.

Your splice looks great though, In your age bracket, you are probably one of the best splicers in the USA!
 
Re: My Tachyon splice

Thanks John!!! I took your advice on pre-tapering the core and that made it all so much easier!!

As far as time, it took me about an hour total I think from marking everything to the time I finished the final bury., so maybe 20-25 minutes just for the final bury.
 
Re: My Tachyon splice

Just to expand here and make this clear. The "concept" of this pre-taper thing Ranger Danger is talking about is a technique that helps with deep core burys on real tight eyes.

Basically, prior to pulling the core through you want to remove the core strands in advance that you aren't going to be able to get because of the tight eye.

A nice technique that still maintains the design, construction and ballance of the splice.

Splice Tight - Climb Right

DIG IT!
 
Re: My Tachyon splice

RD- just to make sure- Looking at your pic, I see a tiny eye. I give 2 thumbs up. But I also notice one other thing. An eye that size should be rounder. If the core tail gets sucked in a few millimeters, it puts slack in the cover in the eye, and that allows the eye to have a pinched look to it- where instead of a teardrop shaped eye, you have a slanted eye.

Does the eye itself look squishy?

Other than that, it looks smooth and neat. The whipping looks tidy. Which directions/method did you use for the whipping?

Pre-tapering sounds like a neat idea. The core stays together while pulling it through when you do it? It doesn't unravel? In the finished eye, how far from the eye is the taper starting?

love
nick
 
Re: My Tachyon splice

anyone have a link for tenex eye 2 eye prussic splicing instructions?
 
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