THE ERGOVATION!!

The saddle it may be comfortable and it may not be. Only time will tell after some have spent some time on it. It could be the greatest thing since sliced bread but give your opinions on the saddle and lets not degrade the integrity of the buzz.
 
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My question is will that center attachment add-on fit other Buckingham saddles... like the Glide? Just curious since I just got a new Glide a little while ago and I have always wanted a center attachment on it.



[/ QUOTE ] The upper straps for srt will work on multiple harnesses. Is that what you are asking or are you referringto the bridge?
There is no 1 size fits all harness out there. We all have different styles of climbing and different body types. The more options out there the better thechance of finding something we like.
 
That's what I was thinking.

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what I don't understand is the price tag. The Treemotion is as expensive as it is because it is shipped across seas and are prone to more taxes. The buckingham is made right here in the us of a "or so we are told" and yet it still has a huge ticket price. It looks like a nice saddle, but I feel like they are trying to jump on the "expensive saddle" side of things. If they kept the price low and quality high like most of there gear then it would sell quite well but why pay Treemotion prices for a possible Treemotion knock of?
 
I saw, and sat in the Ergovation yesterday at T.C.I. It was a prototype model, and most of the attachments are not even available yet. It is a nice saddle, and is very versatile. The designers wife is a physical therapist, and was the main influence in it's design. It is comfortable, and will help climbers with sore backs. You can basically put any type of seat and bridge on it. But it won't be for everyone, especially sine the saddle will be around $589, then each additional add on will be extra. It seems that ever since the treemotion was released, it's been a race to claim who's saddle is the best. Honestly, all of the arguing, and whining is ridiculous! We are supposed to be a community of arborists! Everyone has their preferences on what is the "best" saddle, were all different, and that is what makes this Industry so Great!
 
Price's are up, especially in the saddles that contain petroleum based materials. You also should consider the complexity of the saddle.
 
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Hello all after 12 months in development it is finally available to the world.

Check it out at http://www.buckinghammfg.com/

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So its you design? if so congratulations!

It says alot when a company like Buckingham are willing to back you up....

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Well done on designing the harness.

Questions -

Looks like the lumbar support idea was developed from the Sierra Moreno Backjack? if so, what stopped you going down the TreeFlex/Treemotion route with the pelvic support idea? Wont the large back support restrict lower spine rotation?

Are the legloops solid like the Kolibri?
 
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My question is will that center attachment add-on fit other Buckingham saddles... like the Glide? Just curious since I just got a new Glide a little while ago and I have always wanted a center attachment on it.



[/ QUOTE ] The upper straps for srt will work on multiple harnesses. Is that what you are asking or are you referringto the bridge?
There is no 1 size fits all harness out there. We all have different styles of climbing and different body types. The more options out there the better thechance of finding something we like.

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From what I saw (and I could be wrong), there was a peice of sewn webbing that can be added onto the waist belt to provide a single fixed attachment point for SRT. I was just wondering if this would fit the waist belt of the Glide or other saddles with similar waist belts? Hope this clears up my question a bit.
 
Looks like a clumbsy rip off of the TM with a dash of treeflex thrown in there! I wounder how those rigging plates are going to hold out in that position, looks like they will pull flate and that there will be a lot of pressure going into the waste band...same floors the treeflex has.

i'll be very interested to hear what the results are after it's been climbed for a while...
 
Really???

Very negative speculation there. Motives?

If you have found too much pressure on the waistband of TFX, you either haven't set it up right, or don't want to. Of all the feedback and niggles we get, non have found the waistband uncomfortable.


I haven't read any reasoning on the Ergovation design, but it seems opposite to ours.

One photo and claims but no reasoning doesn't give much to go on.

Please, don't draw any comparisons to TreeFlex - initial observations tell me there aren't any.
Other than any waistband and legloops, it doesn't resemble TFX design at all. It can't - TFX design is protected and patented.

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Harnesses are at the level of development where radical revisions are a thing of the past. The difference is in the details, and a range of products suited to different needs is important for arborists. Shooting it down because it shows similar characteristics is like shooting down a skateboard for looking like another brand of skateboard. A professional user should realize the importance of product options best suited to their needs.

I took the ergovation for a spin, and the weight with fall arrest option is comparable to the weight of the glide 2 harness alone. Excellent support and adjustment options are going to make it sought after.
 
Hey,Guys After reading the instructions for this new harness it would seem to me that the market they are pushing would be the Euro one.There seems to be a great deal more emphasis on EN comformity than ANSI.Although it is stated after all the EN conformity that it does meet ANSI Z359.The dee rings dipicted in the diagram show they are rated at 15kn this is fine for EN 358 and 813.Though it falls short for ANSI Z359 requirements,which is as far as I am aware 5000lbs(22.2Kn) for Dee-rings on work position and fall arrest harnesses..

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Too much money IMO. How is it that petzl can produce a new harness for $200 cheaper which I think looks far more polished, nicer stitching etc. There are things I don't like about the sequoia but they aren't aspects which would account for a cheaper cost. And yes I do realize that they are likely a larger company than buckingham
 
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