The difficulty of an SRT rescue

When I've used the Uni in wet weather it works as well or even a little better than any other friction device or hitch that I've used in the same conditions.

Since the Uni doesn't rely on rope on rope friction there are half the variables to account for. The Uni is the same all of the time the rope is what is changing.

Almost any climbing hitch/friction device or lanyard adjuster that I've tried "sucked" during the first few climbs. After I got used to it's personality I changed my mind or technique.

The feedback about the Uni in the rain came from climbers who used my Uni when I loaned it to Rich Hattier to take to Hawaii last year. To be fair, any new or unfamiliar hitch would likely have gotten the same feedback. Once a person dials in a system they understand it's strengths and weaknesses and can adjust their climbing style to meet the conditions.

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Something that can't be stressed enough is to be aware of how a friction hitch reacts when a two person load is applied. During a rescue there are lots of opportunities for the victim's load being supported by the climber's hitch. That will dramatically change how the climber's hitch reacts. Some hitches lock off others run.

The I'd is rated for two person load. Having a long handle to increase leverage and feather the release is a real benefit in a two person/rescue scenario.
 
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Camp what?

Do you have a link?

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Nope.
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But you're already quite familiar with it in another guise
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Its rare that I work off SRT for various reasons.

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Camp what?
Do you have a link?

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Nope.
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But you're already quite familiar with it in another guise
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I don't understand why you so often word things so cryptically. Is it just to irritate the others reading the thread?
 
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I don't understand why you so often word things so cryptically. Is it just to irritate the others reading the thread?

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No. Interesting that you think I just want to irritate others.

A feature of TB I like, is the ability to respond to a specific person. My reply was to Tom, and Tom will understand I'm having fun with him.

I suggest if any are paranoid or irritated by anything I say, they put me on ignore.
 
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A feature of TB I like, is the ability to respond to a specific person.

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It's idiotic the way you don't know who the quote is unless you go back and figure it out. Yea, great feature.
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A feature of TB I like, is the ability to respond to a specific person.

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It's idiotic the way you don't know who the quote is unless you go back and figure it out. Yea, great feature.
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I just quoted you MB. But you don't have to 'go back to figure it out' - the heading of this post tells everyone.
 
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Is it like the Petzl Stop?

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It was on my ascent system when we talked at the show last weekend
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OK, I'll stop teasing.

Its the camp version of the Edelrid Eddy - identical except its black and Orange.

Both Edelrid and Camp bought the rights to the design from a third party.
 
Frans,

I have no clue. If we're talking about performance in wet conditions we have one discussion, which I'm taking part in. Adding cost into the discussion is a whole different issue.

Why not call Morgan or write to him directly? He just came out with a new version.
 
Just thought I might check it out, Tom. As one who owns one, and as a discussion about tree gear between climbers on TreeBuzz, it is part and parcel and completely in line to discuss the merits of tree gear which includes the cost of ownership.

Sorry you don't want to talk about what it costs to buy one.
Makes me think it might be expensive. Perhaps even more than the LockJack!

I wonder why the cost seems to not be readily available? It must be a alot of money.

Whenever something is truly expensive, the price tag is usually not in plain site. Take for example a high end luxury car like a Bentley or Rolls. If you have to ask the price, you cannot afford one.


Of course, if it is as good as you say, it might be worth it. After having bought three lockjacks in an effort to find the perfect lockjack set-up I am kind of weary of forking out 4-5 hundred dollars for yet another piece of tree gear which would take the place of a tried and true proven set up I already have. ie: beeline prussik cords and advanced friction hitches and the Hitch Climber.

Are their any other TreeBuzz members who have invested in the Uni-cender? I would like to hear some opinions on it from several alternate sources.
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Ahhh, thank you!


Upon closer inspection (thanks to 'softbankhawks'), the unicender costs $450 bucks.

Thats about the same as a lockjack.

According to Tom, the device works very well as a mechanical climbing 'hitch' but also works very well in the event of an aerial rescue.

I might have to check it out closer at the next TCIA. But I would like to get other's feedback on the device as well.

Rescuing someone safely out of the tree is critical. Right now, despite the very slight drawbacks, my VT works very very well. Even for a rescue, SRT or Dbl rope technique.

The way I would use it in a SRT rescue, I have an ISC ascender with a pulley attached to the bottom hole. My climb line feeds through that pulley. Then I work off of it.

Frankly tho, in the event of a rescue, out come the spurs.

I will not use a technique which requires setting a line on the perfect crotch, then gearing up to climb up that rope.

Spurs all the way, set my line and get my comrade down safely and efficiently.
Imagine hanging there, hurt, and being aware of some idiot taking valuable time attempting to hit that perfect crotch with a throw line!

"Hang on there buddy! Let me try it again"!


I would prop. want to kill the guy after it was all over. Or at the very least fire them with extreme prejudice.
 
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Frankly tho, in the event of a rescue, out come the spurs.

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That's true. Whether it was the intial intent of the thread or not, we were all focused on using SRT to rescue, not necessarily the best rescue of an SRT-using casualty.


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attempting to hit that perfect crotch with a throw line!

"Hang on there buddy! Let me try it again"!

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That sounds like the most likely situation!!
 
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A feature of TB I like, is the ability to respond to a specific person.

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It's idiotic the way you don't know who the quote is unless you go back and figure it out. Yea, great feature.
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I just quoted you MB. But you don't have to 'go back to figure it out' - the heading of this post tells everyone.

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Still, it's like responding to e-mail without including the original message. I love getting an e-mail that says only "Yes." Then I have to go back to my sent items to dig out the last message I sent to that person to figure out what the question was ... or how I phrased it.
 
I know of three other people who come onto TB that use the Unicender. One in MN, one in TX and one in the UK. I'll try to see if they'll comment on its use. The fella in the UK is just going to get his Uni this week so he won't have a lot of air time on it.

My Uni travels with me whenever I go to a tree-happening. If things work out right I'll be able to have a rope set up at the field day in St. Louis to discuss SRT.
 
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