allmark
Participating member
Re: The crane job that wasn\'t.
Do you have a smaller crane of your own or hire out all crane stuff?
Do you have a smaller crane of your own or hire out all crane stuff?
The crane job that wasn't.
- Thread starter Mark Chisholm
- Start date
- Location
- Home of the New Jersey Devils
Re: The crane job that wasn\'t.
I wish Todd. I would've used it a bunch today on a lot clearing job. It should be done in about two weeks.
Mark, we rent cranes when we need 'em.
I wish Todd. I would've used it a bunch today on a lot clearing job. It should be done in about two weeks.
Mark, we rent cranes when we need 'em.
- Location
- Nashville, TN
Re: The crane job that wasn\'t.
Nice job Mark! I love when I show up in the morning to a removal like that(as long as the sales guys put enough time on it) none of that sissy pruning!
I just purchased Rigging Software 1.0, anyone have any luck with it?
Nice job Mark! I love when I show up in the morning to a removal like that(as long as the sales guys put enough time on it) none of that sissy pruning!
I just purchased Rigging Software 1.0, anyone have any luck with it?
- Location
- Home of the New Jersey Devils
Re: The crane job that wasn\'t.
Treespyder has some info on it.
Treespyder has some info on it.
RogerM
Carpal tunnel level member
- Location
- Louisville,KY USA
Re: The crane job that wasn\'t.
"none of that sissy pruning!"
Hopefully you were joking. I've chased deadwood out of some trees that would have been easier to remove. I've also done some "sissy" storm damage that made removals seem like a walk in the park. To me, removals are systematic. You can cut stuff out of your way to access more difficult scenarios. Sometimes with "sissy" pruning that luxury isn't always there. /forum/images/graemlins/thinking.gif
"none of that sissy pruning!"
Hopefully you were joking. I've chased deadwood out of some trees that would have been easier to remove. I've also done some "sissy" storm damage that made removals seem like a walk in the park. To me, removals are systematic. You can cut stuff out of your way to access more difficult scenarios. Sometimes with "sissy" pruning that luxury isn't always there. /forum/images/graemlins/thinking.gif
Roger_Barnett
Participating member
- Location
- Seattle, in the PNWet
Re: The crane job that wasn\'t.
Nice Mark!! You boys are fast! So, did you have to clear a space above those two limbs over the roof so you could winch them up whole? or did ya piece them with the bucket truck? or lift and swing sideways?
did you see my madrona pics on the Tree ID board?
Nice Mark!! You boys are fast! So, did you have to clear a space above those two limbs over the roof so you could winch them up whole? or did ya piece them with the bucket truck? or lift and swing sideways?
did you see my madrona pics on the Tree ID board?
- Location
- Home of the New Jersey Devils
Re: The crane job that wasn\'t.
They were held and winched sideways in a few pieces. Then the wood was lowered whole. Not as bad as it might seem.
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did you see my madrona pics on the Tree ID board?
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I sure did Roger. Not an easy job to say the least. Have you been hired to do it?
They were held and winched sideways in a few pieces. Then the wood was lowered whole. Not as bad as it might seem.
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did you see my madrona pics on the Tree ID board?
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I sure did Roger. Not an easy job to say the least. Have you been hired to do it?
Roger_Barnett
Participating member
- Location
- Seattle, in the PNWet
Re: The crane job that wasn\'t.
Achhh, too late I izzz, I see u saw......
More than likely the job is ours...it sounds promising. I told him I'd go back out an peruse the site again...and talk to the city re slope use permits, maybe see if pwr co will cut 'er back a bit. They wouldn't remove the whole tree--i think that is what he asked them if they'd do....
To answer your question on that thread, there is no one around with both GRCS and Hobbs, chipper winch and chain saw winch...likely 2 to 4 of those toys will be needed...
Later that day I looked at an appx 60 foot 12 inch dbh madrone that is straight as they come, but at a 45 degree lean over a neighbor's yard. For the previous owner, we'd removed some spindly leaning alders, but left the difficult to do but stable madrona. Now we have a GRCS, and there just so happens to be 2 120 foot fir perfectly placed for winchin' gin poles...wehaa.. I told him $500-700...no haul...may need to set lines in both firs...which can take a while to set safe retrievable lines from the ground..add to that the blackberries underfoot complicating access and making for tangly messes in the throw line...if ya miss, which i've been known to do.. /forum/images/graemlins/9lame.gif
Achhh, too late I izzz, I see u saw......
More than likely the job is ours...it sounds promising. I told him I'd go back out an peruse the site again...and talk to the city re slope use permits, maybe see if pwr co will cut 'er back a bit. They wouldn't remove the whole tree--i think that is what he asked them if they'd do....
To answer your question on that thread, there is no one around with both GRCS and Hobbs, chipper winch and chain saw winch...likely 2 to 4 of those toys will be needed...
Later that day I looked at an appx 60 foot 12 inch dbh madrone that is straight as they come, but at a 45 degree lean over a neighbor's yard. For the previous owner, we'd removed some spindly leaning alders, but left the difficult to do but stable madrona. Now we have a GRCS, and there just so happens to be 2 120 foot fir perfectly placed for winchin' gin poles...wehaa.. I told him $500-700...no haul...may need to set lines in both firs...which can take a while to set safe retrievable lines from the ground..add to that the blackberries underfoot complicating access and making for tangly messes in the throw line...if ya miss, which i've been known to do.. /forum/images/graemlins/9lame.gif
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- Home of the New Jersey Devils
Re: The crane job that wasn\'t.
If you do get the job, be sure to take plenty of shots and video if possible. Looks like a great job to teach others some creative rigging.
If you do get the job, be sure to take plenty of shots and video if possible. Looks like a great job to teach others some creative rigging.
- Location
- Minneapolis
Re: The crane job that wasn\'t.
Having big oaks around I'm curious what led to the decision to bring the big guy down...the results from the resistograph, visible issues, or what? Was it a no-brainer to remove?
Having big oaks around I'm curious what led to the decision to bring the big guy down...the results from the resistograph, visible issues, or what? Was it a no-brainer to remove?
- Location
- Netherlands
Re: The crane job that wasn\'t.
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Here's an Oak that we tested with the resistograph that ended up as a removal. When I saw it I said "two hour crane job- cake". My brother said "yup". I was sent there today with no crane? I looked in surprise, but knew that it could be done without it. It would just be harder.
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It looks to me the decay is over the limit of 1/6 the diameter of remaining sound wood.
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Here's an Oak that we tested with the resistograph that ended up as a removal. When I saw it I said "two hour crane job- cake". My brother said "yup". I was sent there today with no crane? I looked in surprise, but knew that it could be done without it. It would just be harder.
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It looks to me the decay is over the limit of 1/6 the diameter of remaining sound wood.
- Location
- Home of the New Jersey Devils
Re: The crane job that wasn\'t.
That was probably the worst hollow of the tree. There were other issues as well. Lots of big deadwood, a lead that ripped off the week before we did the removal, the resistograph evidence, and of course visual assessment. I don't know how to explain it exactly, but trees that are in this state always look unique to me? They have a "look" that doesn't look healthy or sound. Anyone feel this way?
That was probably the worst hollow of the tree. There were other issues as well. Lots of big deadwood, a lead that ripped off the week before we did the removal, the resistograph evidence, and of course visual assessment. I don't know how to explain it exactly, but trees that are in this state always look unique to me? They have a "look" that doesn't look healthy or sound. Anyone feel this way?
RogerM
Carpal tunnel level member
- Location
- Louisville,KY USA
Re: The crane job that wasn\'t.
Mr. Frederick Law Olmsted designed our park system and all of the "Parkways" that lead to them. Many a mature Oak that is just begging to be removed.
Mr. Frederick Law Olmsted designed our park system and all of the "Parkways" that lead to them. Many a mature Oak that is just begging to be removed.
Re: The crane job that wasn\'t.
Was that a scarlet oak? It's hard to tell from the pictures, but it looks like it. Around here, they certainly aren't as durable as most other red oaks, and are really more prone to decay. They commonly get Cryphonectria cankers (the chestnut blight fungus)in the root hollows, giving them a swollen base from all the callous tissue growing around the cankers.
Was that a scarlet oak? It's hard to tell from the pictures, but it looks like it. Around here, they certainly aren't as durable as most other red oaks, and are really more prone to decay. They commonly get Cryphonectria cankers (the chestnut blight fungus)in the root hollows, giving them a swollen base from all the callous tissue growing around the cankers.
- Location
- Deltona, FL
Re: The crane job that wasn\'t.
Bucket truck? I'm disappointed Mark.
Bucket truck? I'm disappointed Mark.
- Location
- Home of the New Jersey Devils
Re: The crane job that wasn\'t.
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Bucket truck? I'm disappointed Mark.
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Ha Ha. Hey, 35 last week!
Actually, I've used a bucket since I was a teen. I'll use any equipment that will speed things up!
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Bucket truck? I'm disappointed Mark.
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Ha Ha. Hey, 35 last week!
Actually, I've used a bucket since I was a teen. I'll use any equipment that will speed things up!
Phil
Carpal tunnel level member
- Location
- Oak Lawn, IL
Re: The crane job that wasn\'t.
hey mark, what part of the canopy did you remove first, second, last, etc?
hey mark, what part of the canopy did you remove first, second, last, etc?
- Location
- Home of the New Jersey Devils
Re: The crane job that wasn\'t.
Hey Phil,
I started with the lead over the drive/house to make room for the bucket to move. I hate being confined. Then the lower limbs to open the path. Then one side all the way up and then over to the other side. Is that the answer you wanted or did I miss it?
Hey Phil,
I started with the lead over the drive/house to make room for the bucket to move. I hate being confined. Then the lower limbs to open the path. Then one side all the way up and then over to the other side. Is that the answer you wanted or did I miss it?
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