The Big Shot & the Mini-Traxion & Gerry B.

Went on a Climb with Gerry B yesterday at a tree he calls the Big River tree. Had to boat out to it up the river a ways.
Man what a big tree. Gerry can really pick them.
I lead up the tree and we used my Big Shot to set the first ascent line.
I have a Jameson foam filled pole 6' w/ a 3' foam filled shorter section that I snap on to the end. That makes the whole thing pretty long.The foam filled are fairly stiff. When fully loaded the whole thing does'nt bend all that much. At the end I have a Mini-Traxion. I use a quick snap attached to the bag of the sling shot w/ a 3/8" line going from the q.s. through the m.t. We pulled the bag almost all the way down the 6' pole, used one of those Fresco 8 oz. bag (the italian ones I forget the name) and 2.2 mil. sampson zing it line. With the sling shot bag pulled almost all the way to the end of the 6' pole, and holding the big shot like you would a rifle I fired the bag up into the tree.
I could only get about 90' maybe 100' or so up. Not quite enough to get the choice branch I was aiming for. But I got a lower branch and so was able to get into the tree.
This set up IS GREAT!
with a little tweaking, like maybe using the smaller zing-it (but not a lighter bag) this may be a real usefull set up for setting lines higher in big trees. I dont like much using mono-fil. lines cause they make my head hurt trying to untangle them. This system uses easy to use throw line, easy to pack in and out of tree sites (with the shorter pole section in the back pack and the longer one used like a walking stick makes a low profile park ranger stealthy set-up) and gets up into the higher limbs of those big trees that are really a blast to climb.
Thanks for the climb Ger.
Frans
 
Last weekend we climbed a 10ft dbh 250+ Doug fir, and I hit the second big limb at 145ft with my big shot. I used a 10 oz bag, 1.75 zingit, 8ft pole, and had no problems. The Mini Trax. idea sounds cool, it would certainly give you more control. What I want to try is a fishing reel, fireline, and 4oz lead weight.
 
Frans ,

Run into any bees at the base of that tree? LAst time I was there tromping around all that duff at the base, I got stung a couple times.

Neat tree , isn't it . Kind of like a tree within a tree.

Greg
 
Tom (or whoever else uses that setup)-
How would you be able to see in order to isolate your limb using the fishing weight and fireline? I guess climbing those big monsters presents a unique set of challenges. I don't have as much issue getting the throwline high enough, but rather isolating a particular limb. A high visibility bag and line helps tremendously for me. But I rarely need to hit anything over 90'.
I used to use a lighter 10oz bag but had issues with it not dropping. I also tend to overshoot using the BigShot. So I went to a heavier 14oz bag which reduces my overshot and makes isolating a limb easier.
 
Brian,

I NEVER worry about isolating. Since I use SRT all of the time, that short coming is solved.

I guess you could say that I have to isolate half of the rope to get a clear drop to the ground. In that case, use all of the usual tricks. Do the installation with light line then pull in a heavier throwline and weight. Then climbing line.

A bigger issue is making sure the limb will hold the climber's weight. When the Danes set the line in the big tree on the Eel River, three of us bounced on the rope before anyone went up. Actually, Soren [on left] and Allan Bo [on right] would count as four of me. Those guys are some big Vikings!

Tom
 

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Brian
I think that a heavier weight and real light line is a good idea. Getting the weight down can be a problem.
Just have to keep fiddeling with my set-up until I get it worked out.
Seems like every climb I do I am trying out a different system of ascent. Sometimes I get into tough situations using different systems. But I enjoy the challange. I'll keep working at it until I find what workes for me.
The biggest challange for me is getting up the first ascent.
Always single line cant imagine doing it any other way. After that these big trees are just like any other, each unique but usually limbs fairly close together, well within 40'-50' at least.
Greg
No bees this time but a major limb has failed making the lowest limbs higher than before according to Gerry
Frans
 
Rocky J--paint the weight hot pink, use fishing line that glows purple in the sunlight...this stuff helps, but it can still be a challenge. Best is to pull a high visibility throwline in with the monofiliment first off, tie on a bright bag and then work at isolation. Useing binocs as you manipulate the thing can help, but is awkward.
 

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