Stress Fracture ZigZag
- Thread starter Sexton
- Start date
- Location
- Chardon, OH
Can you stick a 0.001 feeler gage into it ? Even partially ?
Flex it & try again.
Flex it & try again.
- Location
- Chardon, OH
Both ?
No Matter .................. It's a Goner !
Immediately Contact the vendor & Petzl ! ! !
No Matter .................. It's a Goner !
Immediately Contact the vendor & Petzl ! ! !
- Location
- Chardon, OH
Just me, but its your life.
And maybe someone else's !
I would send an e-mail to Petzl as well, Immediately !
And maybe someone else's !
I would send an e-mail to Petzl as well, Immediately !
On another thread it was said that the newest were manufactured starting in October 2014. Someone has the latest with a date number of 14282, which would be October 9th. Good news is they extended the warranty to 10 years, so you should be able to get a new one free.
Merle Nelson
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- SF Bay Area, CA
Sexton, Glad you saw that and you're in good shape.
From what I have been able to determine, Petzl USA did not start selling them in the US until about Feb '15. I had to wait until then for Petzl to have them available to the retailers to get mine.
Merle Nelson
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- SF Bay Area, CA
What I don't understand is why we are talking about this at all. You could get more climbs out of that, put it back in service you.... Or better yet sell it to someone else. A lot of hard earned money in that piece of hardware. Why should you lose money, put it on....
(Facitious, sarcasm, dard humor, etc..)
If this was a hank of rope that randomly started to seperate and release fibers would we continue to casually talk about its use?
This tool did not crack in his hand between the truck and his pre set up inspection. It was cracked on his last life supported climb. (And if you can find some technicality where I am wrong, the principle is still valid.) What about the climber who finds out about that same crack in a total failure at hieght? What about the climber who does not do as good of pre-work inspections?
Do we have to wait until someone dies on a climb with this tool before we are emotional? I just read a July 2014 publication from Petzl that said only 2 in a 1000 crack so they deemed it unnecessary to do a recall. If yours cracks send it in. (Well...if you survive...send it in.)
Why are we even talking about this at all? Petzl needs to recall all previous models that have shown they can and will crack under climbing conditions. Anything short of this is negligence. (But what do I know, I would never climb on a product that cracks for other climbers, or support a company that leaves fellow climbers at grave unnecessary risk.)
(Facitious, sarcasm, dard humor, etc..)
If this was a hank of rope that randomly started to seperate and release fibers would we continue to casually talk about its use?
This tool did not crack in his hand between the truck and his pre set up inspection. It was cracked on his last life supported climb. (And if you can find some technicality where I am wrong, the principle is still valid.) What about the climber who finds out about that same crack in a total failure at hieght? What about the climber who does not do as good of pre-work inspections?
Do we have to wait until someone dies on a climb with this tool before we are emotional? I just read a July 2014 publication from Petzl that said only 2 in a 1000 crack so they deemed it unnecessary to do a recall. If yours cracks send it in. (Well...if you survive...send it in.)
Why are we even talking about this at all? Petzl needs to recall all previous models that have shown they can and will crack under climbing conditions. Anything short of this is negligence. (But what do I know, I would never climb on a product that cracks for other climbers, or support a company that leaves fellow climbers at grave unnecessary risk.)
JeffGu
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- Osceola, Nebraska
And, in that same publication from Petzl, they also tested them extensively (including cutting the links on purpose) and determined that the cracked links won't cause a fall. In fact, not a single fall has been reported to date. I'm guessing that spreading out the replacements over time is more cost effective than a recall, but who knows? As near as I can figure out, the link plates would almost all have to fail on both sides... or most of them, anyway, or it just jams up on the rope. That could leave you stranded there for awhile, maybe.
However, I agree that it would be in Petzl's best interest to just recall all of the Version 1 & 2 units and be done with it. Whether or not there is a fall risk, this can't be doing their image any good to drag this out for so long. The version three changes seem to have fixed the issue, so maybe it's time to kick up production and just replace all the other ones. Personally, I'm getting tired of waiting for mine to crack so I can send them in.
However, I agree that it would be in Petzl's best interest to just recall all of the Version 1 & 2 units and be done with it. Whether or not there is a fall risk, this can't be doing their image any good to drag this out for so long. The version three changes seem to have fixed the issue, so maybe it's time to kick up production and just replace all the other ones. Personally, I'm getting tired of waiting for mine to crack so I can send them in.
Merle Nelson
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- SF Bay Area, CA
I just saw that publication yesterday for the first time. Was it ever in a ZZ thread here?
Also never heard the links can crack but will not cause a fall if they break. That is good news. Thanks for the info. JeffGu.
Also never heard the links can crack but will not cause a fall if they break. That is good news. Thanks for the info. JeffGu.
Thanks Nelson big man was watching me this morning
JeffGu
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- Osceola, Nebraska
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