Storm work

top work!
for some reason i wanted to be part of that crew getting the limb of the chimmney,very nicely done.
i don't doubt your know how but a crane could of been pretty handy there,saw you had a bucket there,so it did'nt look like space was an issue,but ther obviously must be a reason for it.
again nice work
 
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Great pics and video! Could you share a little of the bidding process? Did you price the job right? Anything unexpected that you didn't account for? What would you have bid differently looking back?
Thanks :)

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The tree was still wet and it rained off and on the 1st day. We had to cut up and chip all the brush on the ground and deck(would have gotten pics, but didn't want to chance the electronics in my camera due to the rain). The limb on the deck was larger than the 1 on the chimney. Took longer than anticipated because of the rain and wet conditions. We had to stop working 3 times due to down pours and lightning. Cudos to the crew. They were troopers. Of course we waited 30 minutes after each lightning strike. It was just a crappy day. The client was a very good friend of 1 of the vice presidents (break in $). The pics and vid are all from the 2nd day. It was bid for 1 day for a 3 person crew with a truck/chipper & aerial lift. We would have finished in 1 long day had the weather cooperated.
 
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top work!
for some reason i wanted to be part of that crew getting the limb of the chimmney,very nicely done.
i don't doubt your know how but a crane could of been pretty handy there,saw you had a bucket there,so it did'nt look like space was an issue,but ther obviously must be a reason for it.
again nice work

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There was just enough room for the bucket booms. There is no way a crane could have put a boom up. No where to swing.
 
pretty cool Norm. Its nice when that much gear is at your disposal. Most operations have no way of getting two lifting devices let alone 5 portys. Sometimes when I go to take down a tree I think i might use 2 or 3 ropes and i get the idea in my head that it is not necessarry and would just seem like overkill and wasted time in setup...but when you take the time to set all that up and see the total control over a large peice of wood, it is almost magical....i get that funny feeling in my tummy

when i see things like this i try to remember to take my time and not try to cut corners. We have tools so we can use them when we need them cool pics. Thanks for sharing
 
It was a stroke of luck to have 5 porty's. I usually have large, small and mini porty 3's with me. I just happened to have 2 porty 2's with me from a job where I had to secure a buddies tree on Sunday from falling over in the wind. Half the tree had already fallen on his house and caused $36,000.00 worth of roof and siding damage. The other half had a vertical split and was opening up about 2" in the winds. I didn't want to use my porty 3's, cause I knew we were doing storm work on Monday & Tuesday.
We brought the Hobbs on the 2nd day and switched ropes. The GRCS was on the butt end to prevent it from splitting off on day 1. The other rigging lines were anchored to porty's, just to keep it 'stationary'. All the brush was stripped off, so it wasn't goin anywhere. On the 2nd day, we put the tip line on the GRCS and butt line on the Hobbs. That's the Hobbs that is from 1988. Takes a likkin and keeps on winchin. All we've ever done is replace the 4" webbing strap.
 

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Great work. I like to see some one in complete control of a situation when there are so many variables.

Norm, was that a current customer or a new customer?

Because it seems like a new customer would only go with a low-ball'n/Beer Money Tree Service in a time of urgency after a storm. And a Beer Money Tree Service would have just cut the stuff and added more damage to the home and possible got hurt.

I couldn't imagine trying to sell a new customer in that situation.

What was your approach with the customer?
 
AWESOME job Norm!! Thanks for sharing the many photos and video of your rigging on this job! The rigging will definatley be stored in my memory banks for future use as I am sure it will be by many other 'buzzers!
 
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Because it seems like a new customer would only go with a low-ball'n/Beer Money Tree Service in a time of urgency after a storm. And a Beer Money Tree Service would have just cut the stuff and added more damage to the home and possible got hurt.

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I was talkin with an existing client today where we had to do some 'driftlining' with a tagline. She was tellin me about a friend of hers who hired a 'low baller'. They were riggin a log 5' long and 18" diameter over her nabors roof. When the log was cut free, the knot came untied and the log went thru the roof and landed on the living room carpeted floor. She said it free fell for 50'. No one was home at the nabors and it started to rain about 1/2 an hour later. Those are all the details she gave me.
In NE Illinois, there are all kinds of low ballers. Especially now.
 
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When the log was cut free, the knot came untied and the log went thru the roof and landed on the living room carpeted floor. She said it free fell for 50'. No one was home at the nabors and it started to rain about 1/2 an hour later. Those are all the details she gave me.

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Yep. Those are the guys! You would think Low Baller/Beer Money Tree serice is a nation wide corportation. They have people in every state!
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Horrible experiences like that represents legit guys, in a negative way. I hate hearing stories like that.
 
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Jamin, like I said in an earlier post, the client was friend of 1 of our VP's. First time client. They both work and weren't home during the limb removal process. I didn't sell the job. I just do em.

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I understood the "who" the customer was. But, I was more interested with "how" you got it (and I didn't mean simply a referral, because that was obvious). If you can just "do the job" without explaining your intentions to a customer, that is awesome. You have built yourself quite a good reputation.

I find that if I were to explain (in summary) my intentions to a customer prior to doing the work (especially in a dicey situation like) that they calm down and realize I know what I am doing.
 
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To prevent climbing 2 trees, we set up 'static retrievable false crotches'.

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Norm, I could'nt tell from the picture, do you mean you put a rope with a pulley on the end up in a tree crotch and then tied it off at the ground so that you had a false crotch to use and when done you just lower the pulley back to ground preventing the need to climb and retrieve?

If so, that puts 4x load on the tree, right?

Nice work on the job and pics.
 
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I see an opportunity for a DWT.

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The anchor was nice and solid. Why put the added rope in the system when it's not needed? The single part rope lifted the tip right up with 1 guy on the GRCS.
 
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I didn't sell the job. I just do em.

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Or, are you just an employee?
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Yep, I'm just an employee.
My title is 'Regional Trainer'. If a sells rep needs help bidding a technical job, I will help them with that. My job description is to help with safety and training in the field. In Illinios, we have about 100 field employees, with 9 offices in the Chicago metro area. Each office is assigned it's own territory and each sales rep his/her own cities. Each office will have 2-4 sales staff depending on the # of field staff.
 
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To prevent climbing 2 trees, we set up 'static retrievable false crotches'.

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Norm, I could'nt tell from the picture, do you mean you put a rope with a pulley on the end up in a tree crotch and then tied it off at the ground so that you had a false crotch to use and when done you just lower the pulley back to ground preventing the need to climb and retrieve?

If so, that puts 4x load on the tree, right?

Nice work on the job and pics.

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Yes, the system you are describing puts 4X force on the anchor.
It might be kinda hard to see, but the block is 'choked off' with another rope using a 'stationary bowline'. Sohner (Robert) showed me this technique at a TCI Expo quite a few years ago. He called it a "Static Retrievable False Crotch". This system only puts 2X force on the anchor, and it can be installed and retrieved from the ground with throwline string and 2 ropes. It's definitely worth knowing how to set up.
 
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It might be kinda hard to see, but the block is 'choked off' with another rope using a 'stationary bowline'. Sohner (Robert) showed me this technique at a TCI Expo quite a few years ago. He called it a "Static Retievable False Crotch". This system only puts 2X force on the anchor, and it can be installed and retrieved from the ground with throwline string and 2 ropes. It's definitely worth knowing how to set up.

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I'd love to know it if you feel like tellin!

Is the main advantage the 2x less force than doing with just one rope and the pulley?
 
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