Spurring non-removals

[flushcut]

I could use a good laugh.

 

[Phil]

spikes are completely unnecessary.

Devils advocate again...Hard disagree with this statement. By this logic, trains are completely unnecessary because semi trucks can do the job. Or planes are completely unnecessary because busses can do the job. Its all subjective. Spikes are just another tool that help do the job. The use of the word "completely" is the argument here. If spikes were completely unnecessary, our industry standard would stipulate that. We do not.

I want to be clear though, I personally would not use spikes.

 

[Al_trees]

Maybe depends a bit on the tree too - a lot of guys would argue that pole gaffs on an older Doug Fir probably don't do much harm. But on something like a paper birch - no spurs, for me anyway, unless removal. I think the spur use is driven by production and speed and perhaps a safety excuse/ ruse - "if linemen can pole gaff up poles, our insurance shouldn't scream if we have the same work methods". But for me, if you're an advocate for trees, no spurs pretty much. As for the guys still sticking to spurs always, seen a lot of that - "My GranDaddy did it that way, My Daddy did it that way and My Son will do it that way". Oh for Petes sake - evolve already will they . . . That's just a behavioural/ lazy human thing.

My granddaddy thought he could outsplit a log splitter with an axe sledge and maul but I use a splitter.

 

[Al_trees]

Even the power company has some people who know how to climb without. My neighbor has an ash we've been treating for 15+ years. One day I happen to be home and see them get ready to spike up. I call my neighbor "meet me at your tree, we're gonna chase these guys off." We explain the situation and that the tree isn't to be spiked. "Our supervisor is down the line a few houses, go talk to him.". I did. He pulled the crew and said they'll send someone later (I'm betting in spikes hoping nobody is watch then...but I was wrong, couple days later someone climbs spineless.)

Same tree next time around, work planner is out when I was getting home. I said "please make sure to note that tree is not to be climbed with spikes". She said "that's how trees are climbed". Uh, oh! Somebody didn't notice the logos on my truck sitting right over there LOL! I explain I'd be happy to run in the house to grab my ANSI A300 to show her that standard...or we can open up the truck and I can show a full set of tree climbing gear with no spikes to be found. She made a note and they didn't spike it a few weeks later.

Sounds like a work planner who never climbed a tree.

 

[data farm 26]

@Matias so sorry to hear that, hopefully something better comes up in the wake.

 

[Mick Dempsey]

I remember à discussion about this on some FB forum.
Someone said that it doesn’t do too much harm and they’ll survive.
Someone else countered that you could punch a baby in the face and it would survive but that didn’t make it right.

I thought to myself ‘that’s enough internet for today!’ and went to bed.

 

[ghostice]

My granddaddy thought he could outsplit a log splitter with an axe sledge and maul but I use a splitter.

And, if you were in Cantada you'd have to feel great guilt (our whack job federal environment minister from Quebec is hell bent on making it that way) if that log splitter wasn't electric or better, solar powered. That's progress in our Prime Minister's cabal's eyes (now banning tree fertilizers from the US, any bug treatment that's practical and commonly available in the US, all manner of auto lacquer spray paints and the list is increasing all the time). Purity in life is his quest (except when if comes to kickbacks to company's he's part of - so where'd that ~$400 M go anyway?)..

 

[Bart_]

Ghostice, let it all out if it makes you feel better or, "tell us how you really feel"

just joking

 

[ghostice]

it's that darn single malt again . . . (not really)

 

[Al_trees]

And, if you were in Cantada you'd have to feel great guilt (our whack job federal environment minister from Quebec is hell bent on making it that way) if that log splitter wasn't electric or better, solar powered. That's progress in our Prime Minister's cabal's eyes (now banning tree fertilizers from the US, any bug treatment that's practical and commonly available in the US, all manner of auto lacquer spray paints and the list is increasing all the time). Purity in life is his quest (except when if comes to kickbacks to company's he's part of - so where'd that ~$400 M go anyway?)..

Yall gotta vote those global socialists out. Finally our votes counted in the U.S.