Spar Work

This is the one that works best. The legs need to be much much shorter. If there isn't a load on it, it falls. I think shorter legs will take care of that.
 

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Steve, an easy system for you to set up with minimal gear is to tie a Running Bowline for a choke and set a carabiner hanging in the eye of the Bowline. Grab the tail of your climb line below the hitch/pulley and pop it into the biner. As you descend, it will be like leaving a pony tail. When you reach the next point to cut, grab both sides of the tail (up side and down side) and pull them together. They will pull the biner and release the choke. Done.
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By the way, I remember you from before. Nice you're back.

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hey oceans, if you dont mind could you maybe explain this a different way or incorporate a picture or something..

im sure im the only one that cant quite understand but im very interested in learning this. I have a very identical situation as the thread starter and I want to be safer again.

thanks!
 
What Oceans described is something like this. I'm no artist but I think you can grasp the idea.


Here is also a different take on the same idea...

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Visualize yourself being the load on the left green line. Now take your tail below your climbing system and put it through the biner (shown empty in the picture). You can now descend. When you want to retrieve the system: Give yourself slack and pull down on your tail that is running up through the biner. The choke around the spar will loosen up and come back down to you.

Helpful tip: Keep the spar nice and clean if you can. No stubs.
 

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Awesome art work. Lots of detail down to the links on the saw chain. Great stuff, thanks. I got ya. I have a ring with OP at home in the gear stash. I think that might be a little easier than how I tied the Teufelberger Sirius MultiSling with a 6 coil. I could actually just use that with a blakes as well. The idea of using the tail of the rope is great. Yesterday I just ran the spliced eye all the way to the ground then tied off the choker. Using my tail would be a little time saver. Thanks
 
No problem.

Like I said earlier, I prefer using an alpine butterfly mid-line, leaving a long tail for retrieval, with a steel biner to choke the spar. This way I don't need to use the fall of my rope for retrieval. But different strokes for different folks!
 
I really like that idea and I'm surprised i haven't seen that done yet.

stupid question maybe but lets say if you were to take the weight off the running bowline for a couple seconds and than sit back into it could it slip down? being so vertical and maybe on a smoother tree?

ive never descended like this.
 
Personally I have never had a problem with it, but I see your point. The only thing I could suggest is to "spin" the choked system so that there is more of a "cinch" on your rope. The bowline will be shifted a little off center. In this way the bowline will have a much more difficult time moving at all. Does that make sense to you?

I'm not sure how to say that with better wording...
 
Jon427--that is my preferred method, too, however after having seen Mike Powers successfully dismantle several large Douglas firs using the technique, I saw that it was both safe and had a lot of time/labor saving value and it works, doesn't get hung up. Nice picture, Mike!
 
One thing that i will throw in this discussion is to replace the running bowline with a running alpine butterfly. Leave the same amount of tail and connect your retrieval to it. It is easy to learn to tie and no worries of misaligned hardware or distorting knots. I will put some pics up if anyone wants them.
 
'Tete' can be the new name on the job site for heroic action.

I'm just imagining all the camera men around him, tied into the tree with saddles and rope, covered in netting, asking Tete; "Can you hang on right there for a second while we get a better camera angle? I know you're getting stung, but..."
 
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'Tete' can be the new name on the job site for heroic action.

I'm just imagining all the camera men around him, tied into the tree with saddles and rope, covered in netting, asking Tete; "Can you hang on right there for a second while we get a better camera angle? I know you're getting stung, but..."

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Haha exactly! i thought the same thing. The camera man ascended (probably with a raptor) and descended probably 20 times to get the shot while it took tete hours upon hours to get up there.
 
Makes you thankful...especially those in our line of work. We know what those heights are like with all the safety precautions in place.
 
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