Slaice sewn splice

Nope. I asked an NERopes rep about it last month. It's just a hurry up and wait for now.

Taylor Hamel may have some current info on it. Shoot him a PM if he doesn't catch this thread.
 
As far as I understand: Slaice is a Teufelberger patent, so only Teufelberger produces it. I doubt they would Slaice a pre-owned rope. Anyway, the price of shipping it to and from Austria would not be cost effective for you.

Slaice works really well with Fly. Perhaps you can repurpose your existing rope and order a new Slaiced length?
 
Very cool, hadn't seen it. I'd been thinking about how to integrate a narrow dynema sling into an eye, somehow taper it into the core and create a compact eye. So there it is they've done it. Eventually someone will dissect one and the exact construction details will be known.
-AJ
 
Ok looked at the PDF there's a larger photo of the Slaice on Fly. Looks like a cover only eye with the dynema webbing inside the eye. Between the eye and the stitching I believe it's just cover and the dynema webbing, or maybe the cover is tapered meeting the tapered core coming the other way. The devil is in the details at the stitching area, probably the doubled dynema is stitched there and ends with half core/half cover also stitched, above the stitching the cover tapers until it's 100% core like a normal splice.

All speculation interested to hear what the splicers think re: how it's done.
-AJ
 
I remember looking at that a year or two ago. Here's what my guesses:

-the cover is buried alongside the core much like in the standard 16 strand splice, but with less bulk
-cover is then stitched down
-They mention there is a dyneema strap inside the eye. So I'm guessing they don't do that in 16 ropes, but in non-cover dependent ropes, they can restore the strength you WERE getting from the core by adding a much smaller, thinner, flatter dyneema webbing.

I'm not sure there's much else to it. In comparing notes, it looks like our guesses are quite similar, moss.
 
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Very cool, hadn't seen it. I'd been thinking about how to integrate a narrow dynema sling into an eye, somehow taper it into the core and create a compact eye. So there it is they've done it. Eventually someone will dissect one and the exact construction details will be known.
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Can you please explain in more detail what you are trying to do? There are easy ways to do things.

Look at my attachment, you could do anything to change the outcome.
 

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OK, i have just studied the t-berga pictures, now thats a doddle to do, you could even do it better.

see my attachment of a brummel, at the end of a tachyon rope, the principle is the same//ish, but with a 6mm?? dynemma sling, you could use vectran or dyneema rope, to achieve the same flexibility in the end.
 

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Can you please explain in more detail what you are trying to do? There are easy ways to do things.

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I'm just curious how Teufelberger does it, I find their approach very interesting since I've already been playing around with sewn dynema webbing and termination eyes.
-AJ
 
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Can you please explain in more detail what you are trying to do? There are easy ways to do things.

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I'm just curious how Teufelberger does it, I find their approach very interesting since I've already been playing around with sewn dynema webbing and termination eyes.
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well my guess is the core, if it's pulled, tapered and sewn to the sling, then cut, then a wire fid or wand inserted to pull the cover back inside with the sling, might need a taper, it will be a fair pull of 150lbs plus. Most of my splices have very tight eyes, limited tapers and pulled at 400>500lbs.
 
I think it's most useful application is an O-rig climbing system. A long eye could be just as useful in that application.

I've been using one on a piece of Dragonfly. It's nice, but I haven't found a real need for it. It will run through the eye of the small DMM Swivel, which would make for a nice O-rig system.

I've got my retrieval ball just below the stitching of the eye with a kleimheist ever since Saturday, when the ball got wrapped and jammed around a 1" branch. The ball was girthed in the eye. It was only two feet from the pulley when it got stuck. I jumped on it and then decided to climb to retrieve since I didn't want to wreck the jacket of the eye with the smaller diameter retrieval ball cord.
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I think it's most useful application is an O-rig climbing system. A long eye could be just as useful in that application.

I've been using one on a piece of Dragonfly. It's nice, but I haven't found a real need for it. It will run through the eye of the small DMM Swivel, which would make for a nice O-rig system.

I've got my retrieval ball just below the stitching of the eye with a kleimheist ever since Saturday, when the ball got wrapped and jammed around a 1" branch. The ball was girthed in the eye. It was only two feet from the pulley when it got stuck. I jumped on it and then decided to climb to retrieve since I didn't want to wreck the jacket of the eye with the smaller diameter retrieval ball cord.
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How long is the loop on your retrieval ball?
 
Long enough for a few wraps of a Kleimheist. I have it that way to use for lines without an eye in them, like a 9/16" rigging line and such.

The eye of the slaice is quite supple on Dragonfly.
 
I could use an overhand knot sometimes, but I've had tough pulls with larger lines in my steel Rr Rigging FS. The retrieval ball pops right through the larger ring real nice and clean when you want a more controlled retrieval in a dense crown.
 
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