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[jdevogel]

@Chaplain242 No coating on gear to my knowledge. It's actually in the fiber. Not sure what they use, but I'm fairly certain its not Nomex. I had it explained to me once but forgot the specifics long ago. Most of the firefighters in my town had more to be concerned with from getting a bad batch of chili than cancer from their gear, as they didn't get out all that much. They sure were good at negotiating raises though. You don't mess with the municipal Firefighters Unions

 

[jdevogel]

@jdevogel It's definitely not daily.
I just don't usually bother to do anything with my clothes before I start welding and grinding on anything besides putting on boots, if I happen to not be wearing some already.
Same goes for digging or fishing or playing mechanic and rolling in gravel and getting oily.

I do have to say that I appreciate your presence here, even if you only post in your field of expertise. Stick around.

Thanks @SomethingWitty . I'm certainly no Arborist and will continue to stick to my area of 'expertise', though I really don't consider myself an expert in much even after 41 years of living. I swear my brain started to slow down once I got married and has only gotten worse. I'm an (overly) brave DIY'er, nerd and outdoor lover at best.

 

[jdevogel]

@Chaplain242 I should add, it's not that I don't hold those folks in high regard and would certainly appreciate them rushing in with full armor if my house was on fire. I think my dad just always had a chip on his shoulder with firefighters (even though some were his best friends) since fatalities and injuries were so much higher in tree work and electrical line work, yet police and fire were always the "heroes". As such, they were rewarded with far higher pay and benefits (at least in my town) while the utility workers and tree folk had to fight tooth and nail for crap pay. Of course, look at poor roofers - #4 most dangerous profession, and most those folks make peanuts.

 

[Chaplain242]

@Chaplain242 I should add, it's not that I don't hold those folks in high regard and would certainly appreciate them rushing in with full armor if my house was on fire. I think my dad just always had a chip on his shoulder with firefighters (even though some were his best friends) since fatalities and injuries were so much higher in tree work and electrical line work, yet police and fire were always the "heroes". As such, they were rewarded with far higher pay and benefits (at least in my town) while the utility workers and tree folk had to fight tooth and nail for crap pay. Of course, look at poor roofers - #4 most dangerous profession, and most those folks make peanuts.

Same issues everywhere re ES living some inflated ego trip - but it is more product of media and hero culture (climbing arborists and some bosses can sometimes squeeze into this category..) which comes from the grass roots of our culture thousands of years ago, but I digress...

I know of one 19/20 yo volunteer firefighter that died cancer and his colleagues believed it to be the clothing, so no ‘paid position expected dangers applied to that case. Regardless of cultural attitudes still a shame for anyone to pass because we can’t find a better product to wear...

 

[Chaplain242]

@Chaplain242 No coating on gear to my knowledge. It's actually in the fiber. Not sure what they use, but I'm fairly certain its not Nomex. I had it explained to me once but forgot the specifics long ago. Most of the firefighters in my town had more to be concerned with from getting a bad batch of chili than cancer from their gear, as they didn't get out all that much. They sure were good at negotiating raises though. You don't mess with the municipal Firefighters Unions

There is a coating involved, we actually got hold of the raw liquid material once. Just the type of oiliness and its consistency screamed danger...there are a few types out there, but work much the same with similar dangers. Just not advertised as no alternatives yet..

 

[jdevogel]

@Chaplain242 it does seem like there has to be a better solution that isn't cancer causing. Same as Roundup I suppose. If it's cheap and gets the job done, profits (or for municipalities 'cost savings') always takes the priority over nasty side effects. Tis sad and true.

 

[jdevogel]

Of course, the rest of us uninformed saps are equally at risk. It's a mad world. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/thes...eap-clothes-we-buy_n_57d6e494e4b03d2d459b92ff

 

[Chaplain242]

Of course, the rest of us uninformed saps are equally at risk. It's a mad world. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/thes...eap-clothes-we-buy_n_57d6e494e4b03d2d459b92ff

One of the most consumed toxins around is benzene. Used in cheap distillation of olive oil (those bulk cans in the aisle of the supermarket) and also in preservatives of soft drink if it gets hot (coke left in sun reaching hot temps can convert benzoates back to benzene and make you sick)

 

[jdevogel]

@Chaplain242 Ugh... crazy humans. We are really good at inventing very expensive means of curing ourselves from our own inventions made to make life cheaper, convenient, easier and safer. #keepitnatural #familyfarms4life #dadwasabluecollarunionhippy

 

[Woodwork]

If you're gonna be welding or cutting, not much beats cotton in my view. If it catches on fire, at least it's easy to put out, and it won't melt into napalm...

I use regular blue jeans, with a flame-resistant shirt like this:

 

[Chaplain242]

If you're gonna be welding or cutting, not much beats cotton in my view. If it catches on fire, at least it's easy to put out, and it won't melt into napalm...

I use regular blue jeans, with a flame-resistant shirt like this:

You pose?

 

[Woodwork]

You pose?

No, just showing the delightful green welding shirt. They're all that sickly green, but mine doesn't separate like the one in the photo into either "full shirt" or "just sleeves and cape" for when it's hot and you're doing overhead welding...