Serius Rope Outer Sheath Failure

We broke the same rope one day. The way we broke it was pulling over a 15' willow stem in a wide open yard. Rigging with it prior the cover did get bunched up a lot. Honestly I don't think the rope is worth it. We use it to tie stuff down in the trailer now.
Our go to rope is 3 stand for lighter smaller rigging and 9/16 husky or stable braid for the bigger stuff.
 
I've watched a couple videos of friction devices being used topside. "1504lb double safe blocking" by X man D. Driver is one example, and Kevin B's recent one featuring his rig 'n wrench.
The one thing that bugs me is that the piece getting lowered doesn't seem to run very well at all. At least not compared to how a good groundman can let stuff run in a controlled fashion.
 
I think it does. Especially with the rig n wrench. It's smooth as can be. The AFB takes a little practice to judge the wraps. But I see how what your describing can happen.

Thanks Reg.
 
Thanks, Steve.
Some mistakes you only get to make once!
Am kind of a fanatic about having stuff run nice, having been shaken like a rag doll a few times over the years.
 
Pelorus said:
I've watched a couple videos of friction devices being used topside. "1504lb double safe blocking" by X man D. Driver is one example, and Kevin B's recent one featuring his rig 'n wrench.
The one thing that bugs me is that the piece getting lowered doesn't seem to run very well at all. At least not compared to how a good groundman can let stuff run in a controlled fashion.
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That maybe because my ground guys this year and in my rig n wrench videos are two 19 year old kids who are not even allowed to even run a chainsaw yet! They are getting better... they have definitly shaken me up pretty good a couple times.
 
treebing said:
That maybe because my ground guys this year and in my rig n wrench videos are two 19 year old kids who are not even allowed to even run a chainsaw yet! They are getting better... they have definitly shaken me up pretty good a couple times.
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Ha! Don't you hate it when you know the greenhorn on the ground is gonna shake you like a wet dog, but they are your only option. Worst
 
Had a (contract climbing) job last Spring where the fellow running the Hobbs let go of the rope and run away! His boss (thankfully) saw the whole thing and (severely pissed off) yelled: "John, YOU LET GO OF THE ROPE!" John replied: "it slipped" Yeah, it slipped alrighty.
I'm up the tree watching the whole fiasco, and am a bit perturbed, cause
1. I had them lower a couple of "practice" limbs before this one. No problem
2. The client watched this train wreck unfold.
3. The railing of her deck took a direct hit
4. I'm the idiot in the tree who cut the limb.
5. This is the first tree, and I've got three more like it to dismantle.
The rest of the day, John got ridden like a rented mule, to the extent that I started to feel sorry for him. His boss told me later that he fired him at the end of the day. Not for screwing up, but for lying through his teeth.
 
Actually there were some pretty sloppy and inexplicable lowering in some of the cuts on that willow. They were edited out. The audio is funny my trying to micromanage their lowering. But you can see at the end how the logs are every which way. They don't understand staging the job. Oh well, I don't want them cutting yet while I'm in the tree. Mostly cause I don't want a dull saw.
 
The wrench has run beautiful for us thus far. Very consistent and predictable. But mainly we use it with a view to the climber, me, taking over and controlling the line when we're short of bodies on the ground. Having or choosing to use a lowering device as well would suggest that you're probably way overloading it. It's a great concept but you should work within its limits. Here a top from yesterday. Once the top is hanging within Darrells reach, I take over the line.

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i think the sirius is lame as a lowering line. unfortunatly i bought 2 200' lines late last year and have to live with them for a while. they milk terribly and generally piss me off.
 
Yes,
Steve Connally said:
I've pretty much concluded based on pages of advice, if you have to use a ld then the wrench is the wrong choice. I was just pushing it as hard as I could to see where it fit in in my big picture. I found out.
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Yeah, I think the bend radius of even the pinto really is too small when dealing with the big weights, not to mention the bend radius of the slic pin, which is not so much an issue at the 200-300 lbs range.
 
MikePowers321 said:
Arbormaster still working out nicely for you Steve?
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Yes it is. I haven't done much small stuff lately so its only been in the tree 4 or 5 times and with the AFB mostly. They are a good pair and I'm sure it'll love the rnw because the cougar did. I like the firmness of the rope a lot. Makes me feel better about the bend
 
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