safety meeting

[treehumper]

One of the reasons I got into tree work is the straightforward communication needed due to the nature of the risk in our work. No time to sugar coat or pc the conversation. If your in the midst of an operation and someone is shortcutting a safety policy then telling them in a forthright and direct manner is the way to go. Calling a safety meeting afterwards to elaborate is good to allow for some meaningful dialogue and clarification of your intent.

As someone else said, A shortcut in safety quickly becomes SOP.

 

[Maui Palm & Tree Care]

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i apologize for being so brash

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It's OK. No one took your tough words seriously.


SZ

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thank you

 

[Riggs]

"he was forcible taken from his mother by child services when he was 9 months old. 30 years before he saw here again. Guess he's got a reason to dislike authority... the authorities came and he never saw his mom again, suffered abuse in foster care etc...
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thats awesome , a man doesn't listen to you and you throw his life problem on the web . He went from not geting out of the dz to not being raised by his real parents . Beautiful , did that ifo come out of the safety meeting or another meeting ?

besides that , not a good idea to be in the DZ , no matter who your parents might be.

 

[Frax]

What everyone says is right. He just needs to get with the program.

I look at a risk/consequence matrix also. The RISK of failure may be low in this case, but the CONSEQUENCE of failure is high. In this case failure is defined as 'tree falling on guy'.

And since mitigating this RISK is as easy as getting his out of the DZ, no further explanation should be necessary. Arrogant aholes often learn things the hard way.

 

[ginkobalboa]

Well put Frax! RISK to CONSEQUENCE ratio. I'll be thinking about that and how it applies to EVERYTHING! It should be a much larger part of the training process.

 

[Riggs]

oh Frax , from what Daniel says says about him he has nothing to lose if the tree hits him . Personally Id be more worried about the guy cutting the tree running into me after he cuts the tree over !

 

[TimBr]

everyone is the way they are for a reason..

he was forcible taken from his mother by child services when he was 9 months old. 30 years before he saw here again. Guess he's got a reason to dislike authority... the authorities came and he never saw his mom again, suffered abuse in foster care etc...

I didn't mind it this time. he moved, he just grumbled a bit on the way... Seemed like a good time to have a quicky safety meeting.

I think its good to have compassion for the next guy, whether we know what he's been through or not...

Daniel Murphy really is a sweetheart of a guy. Just my gut reaction to this post of his, and not having ever met him in person. In my humble opinion.

Tim

 

[Jeff]

I realize we're 2.5 years out on this thread, but since Tim resurrected it…

A) YOU'RE the boss

B) Is it really that hard to step aside for 60 seconds while they flop it?

C) If he's willing to stand up to the boss on something so small, what's he going to do on really important stuff? Next you're going to want him to wear a hard hat and 2 hand a chainsaw! Sheeze!

D) Haven't we all seen things doing tree work that left us scratching our heads going "Man, I never would have imagined that could happen?!?" I always try to plan for the worst, but some of the stories I can tell you… thankfully mine are funny, not tragic.

 

[frashdog]

I was dropping a spar today, slight front lean, rope set by climber, 4 men pulling by hand.. One guy was blowing the lawn behind the tree (away from the lean and pull line). He had actually done the climbing, so he knew which way the tree was leaning.
Before starting the back cut, I waved him off and asked him to get out of the potential DZ... He got a little pissy and said something, "why?... are the laws of physics not working today?"...

So we had a 5 minute safety meeting.. The one question I asked is.... "(even though there was 0% chance of the tree hitting him), why would I ask him to get out of the potential DZ..

Because you wanted to smoke a bowl? Just saying, I've heard about "safety meetings".
Stuff does explode in all directions some times when it hits!

 

[Pelorus]

Assisted a friend dismantle a large hung up poplar several weeks ago.
Did a double take when I notice his helper wearing shorts and (purple) Crocs. Even more so because this was a somewhat high visibility Twp job.
My buddy was a bit apologetic - said his dimwit was under the impression he was just gonna be cutting grass that day.
I told him it made for a lousy company image, and if anything bad happened to the Croc man.....