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I felt this was a global enough issue and was wondering what people thought.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/12/30/MNGSTNADOF1.DTL

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/5701948.asp?gid=74

What do you think with regards to the sentence and capital punishment? What do you think the supporters will do? How do you think the Shiites and Kurds will react? Will the suicide bombers call it a day?

We dont have capital punishment here so I find it a little old fashioned to still hang people, that seems a little odd to me, surely a more acceptable humane method could have been used?
 
Judging by the celebrations it seems everyone was happy. One less thug and hopefully a message out to others. Be interesting to see how other dictatorial countries react, they could have the same occur.
 
What I cannot stand is the morbid minute by minute analysis and media coverage.

ABC, Fox, BBC, Sky News etc are vultures living off scraps of violence and hatred.

Why did they have to show photos of the hanging?
Surely they could have just shown the body at most.

What does it take to be civilized?

Using Saddam's Iraq as your moral bar is pathetic, why did they have to bow to the lowest standard and show the hanging?

The photo is on every newspaper!

I believed Saddam Hussein deserved to be executed but I do not believe that it had to be done with such ravenous bloodthirsty media coverage.

If you bought a newspaper with the photo of the hanging - then your a sheep - Sheep unite!

Hegemony rules the day.
 
When we kill a wounded animal we "put it out of its misery" or a god thing for the animal. Executing a human is called the capital punishment. Death is good for animals but bad for convicts - understand it if you can. I believe in reincarnation so for me death panalty is not a penalty but a second chance, must he use it well.
Svein
 
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When we kill a wounded animal we "put it out of its misery" or a god thing for the animal. Executing a human is called the capital punishment. Death is good for animals but bad for convicts - understand it if you can. I believe in reincarnation so for me death panalty is not a penalty but a second chance, must he use it well.
Svein

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If humans differ from other animals, it is partly in the conflicts of their instincts.
Humans crave security, but they are easily bored;
Humans are peace loving animals, but they have an itch for violence;
Humans are drawn to thinking, but at the same time they hate and fear the unsettlement thinking brings.
There is no way of life in which all these needs can be satisfied.

Luckily, humans have a gift for self deception, and thrive in ignorance of their natures.

Good luck with your re-incarnation treebear.
I take it you would like to be a bear?
 
not to change the subject, but i never have understood reincarnation... o.k. lets use Saddam as an example, most people would agree that he was a pretty bad person, so what would he be in his next life? Turkey Vulture? Hyena? that would make sense.... but where i have the problem is if I(or insert your name here) or anyone that is a moral good person dies then what do they change into... no matter what animal(dog, horse, eagle...) you can name, it is still a step down..... that does not sound like a seconed chance.
Also, if i did believe in reincarnation, as a moral person i could not eat animals.... and my opinion is that: if God did not want us to eat animals, then he wouldent have made them out of meat

is the theory that we reincarnate into another human? then how do we explain the increase in population.

not trying to give you a hard time, just provoking thought

Rob
 
I disagree, reincarnation may be a form of empathy. If you come back as a dog, it would be to see how somthin else lives. Coming back as a dog might be a step up not down.

As humans we are no longer living to live. we need to work buy things, own property, this is how we value our existence.

If you came back as any animal your livin to live. living to survive, re incarnation might be an empathatic look on what life is really about.
 
If you ever want to get really confused and try to understand where the new humans come from considering reincarnation would be zero growth then read that wackos book

L Ron Hubbard, Dianetics. http://www.dianetics.org/ Some wierd ideas there and trying to read the book is hard enough.
 
what is your opinion of what life is all about? my opinions on this subject are dependent on being human. ie. Pleasing my maker, living a happy moral life, the golden rule, raising my family to do the same.. basically all of the things that Saddam did not do.

so if you do not have a soul(i believe that animals do not... that is why i eat them) it is impossible to do these things....

if you believe that animals have souls, then i think that you have to take it a step further and say that all living things have souls, how is a plant any different than an animal? it has organs, and it requires air, water and food, so if everything living has a soul, then we are in the wrong business.... cutting trees and shrubs is wrong and we need to find a job that does not kill things.... maybe we could be accountants... all you need is some paper and a pencil.... oh wait, are those made out of trees?...

are you wearing shoes? are they leather?



o.k. i am having too much fun, no offence meant to anybody

Rob
 
Well let me say I am not religous. I have no beliefs either way.

Morality is based upon your surroundings. different cultures whether religously motivated or not have different moral sets.

someplaces in africa it is an honor to have your flesh eaten after your death, to those people it is morally acceptable.

Is that morally acceptable on main st. USA ?

NO, so I dont see how morality can be painted one color.
 
You all have good points, unfortunately we won´t see what is right or wrong until afterwards, and then it doesn´t matter, does it?
My idea of reincarnation is that everything in this universe is energy, energy is constant so when ones die the energy is just transformed into something different. Our mind or "soul" if you´d like is also based on energy and is being transformed - not lost. Where does it go? - just hang in there and eventually you´ll find out, or you can hang on to one of the religious theories.
Every life is valuable for itself - even mosquitos, but I still slap them, I eat flesh, love a good steak, hunt deer, grouse and reindeer, and even eat vegetables - yes, they have a life too.
Difficult to understand - then don´t, these are only my opinions - have your own.
Svein
PS. A treebear is a squirrel.
 
In the attempt of bringing this thread back around to its original intention....
I'm glad they "offed" Saddam. I believe he deserved it.

I'm not a huge proponent of the death penalty. We make too many mistakes. Like the last guy executed here in Florida, Angel Diaz. What a TOTAL botch job THAT was, from conviction to execution! I guess hanging would have been WAY more humane than the treatment he received. But Saddam was guilty of atrocities, was tried, convicted and executed quickly and humanely. (ha! almost got off the subject there!)

I am kind of surprised that I haven't seen pictures of violence towards US troops and citizens overseas. Pleasantly so, but surprised nonetheless. Time will tell what happens next..
 
They certainly get on with it, within 30 days, whammo, you are linched.

And it's not like there was any uncertainty to what he did.
 
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