Russian Arborists Tree Removal?

i think daniel or danielle is just jealous that he never gets to rig out these types of trees with tight drop zones. because he has such a boring job dropping trees with nice big drop zones he has to come up with ridiculous ways to over complicate things with rigging to make it look complex.

even i wear a pair of chaps. get with the times daniel.

that was a cool video!! i thought about using my new coconut climbing stand for taking pines down. wouldent it be nice to have a platform to stand on while blocking down? unfortunately the platforms only work on trees 24" diameter
 
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Unless he sold his spurs for a bottle of a vodka,not sure why he decided not to use them for that job?

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Ouch. I would expect that comment from an American more than a Canuck! Still kind of funny though... I guess. :)

-Tom
 
Their excuse...I should say reasons might be that they are using the tools available and the techniques they know work for them. It all looked reasonably safe and controlled to me.

I presume they are fairly experienced. I won't judge experienced operators on their decison to one-hand any more. I would rarely do it myself, but I don't have the strength or skill level to make it a viable option in the vast majority of cases.

Maybe they don't have spurs. Spurs sometimes get in the way when moving about and can make climbing awkward...but they NEVER get in the way for work positioning, for me anyway. They always give me the options I need to position where I want. Maybe they would like some. But since they can do it without, its perhaps not high on their want list. The saddle looks home-made and the hand saw...wtf is that? But it worked for them.
 
Yes and they also were using an ISC spring loaded rigging block, what looked like a rigging line that is designed for arb work and biners etc. So why no spikes??? Anyone speak Russian? Ask them...

Its good of you Frax not to automatically judge ALL one handing as evil, when there are plenty of highly experienced arbs that practice the technique in a practical and safe way.. HOWEVER.. anyone, with a little expereince in saw handling, should be able to see that having such poor positioning relative to the cut, and therefore reaching out with an extended arm and weak wrist, at the same time the saw is in making a horizontal cut in the same plane as the head and neck, is extremely hazardous. Even a slight bit of kick back as the piece rocks on the hinge or the bar tip hits some unseen side limb etc.. would result in saw to the face or neck, which could easily be fatal. This is no joke. Its unbeleievably dangerous, and anyone that thinks that the work depicted is somehow cool, is foolish.

HE SHOUDLN'T EVEN BE RUNNING THAT SAW ABOVE HIS SHOULDERS LIKE THAT WITH TWO HANDS!!!!

This is a far different kind of one handing than that done by an expereinced arb reaching down, out or around, away from his body to cut a horizontal limb, with no part of his body in the plane of the bar...

I know someone that took a 200t to the face when cutting from a bucket.. 200 stitches and some pastic surgery later he doesn't look too bad.. Doubt the Russians would have acces to such good medical care.
 
Well, I would never use a saw one hand like in the video in that orientation, and I would feel pretty unsafe even holding the saw at that level relative to my body with both hands with or without gaffs. Without gaffs gives one much fewer choices about where to cut relative to available body positions in my experience, little though it may be.
I'm not that impressed by gaffless removals except in really branchy trees even though some people do them all the time.

But its not like we haven't seen plenty of cutting at scary orientations on vids here on TB before. I remember seeing one of yours that scared the sh*t out of me.
 
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these guys have an excuse for doing things the wrong way. you dont.

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With a little guidance from a good climbing/rigging instructor those guys would be excellent treeworkers.

Daniel, in your videos you've resorted to embellishing current industry best practice with contrived shite dressed up as innovative new methodology.
 
Oh gosh yes Frax, that made my stomach hurt when i saw that at 1:15, who would use a saw like that? Really, really, really bad move.

I'll have to view the russian vid another day, 9 minutes long, sounds interesting.
 
FYI Frax,
tough to see in the video, both those trees were on top of retaining walls...so for the pawlonia I would have had to cut from the hooks, if I was going to position to the side of the face.. maybe I should have inverted the saw and cut with the pull chain. might have offered more control. In any case the cut lasted less than 5 seconds, with no chance of kickback. Looked scarier than it was..
 
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FYI Frax,
Looked scarier than it was..

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words to live by.
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just pull your chaps up like old men where their britches,

that'll solve that little problem.
 
"In any case the cut lasted less than 5 seconds,"

what ever Daneille, it takes just a split second to spill your guts.

that was a bad move and anyone that knows saws can see that.
 
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