Russia invades Ukraine

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 22144" data-quote="Willber" data-source="post: 708264" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=708264" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-708264">Willber said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> It doesn’t seem near as bad as it is being portrayed </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 5046" data-quote="Bucknut" data-source="post: 708274" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=708274" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-708274">Bucknut said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Of course there is some truth to what you are saying. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> How not bad are the visions of bombed hospitals and apartment buildings? Long lines of refugees. <br /> <br /> Is someone going to show a phony video confession by a modern day &#039;Stanley Kubrick&#039; claiming that all of the video we can see is just a movie set?<br /> <br /> How can people be so easily duped?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 7" data-quote="Tom Dunlap" data-source="post: 708279" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=708279" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-708279">Tom Dunlap said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> How can people be so easily duped? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I wonder the same thing. Every. Single. Day. <br /> <br /> In this case, my point was that as Westerners it’s hard to know exactly what is happening in Ukraine. For example, casualty numbers for each side are skewed depending on which outlet reports them. Individual battle successes and defeats likewise. I thought I was pretty clear about Putin: demented unforgivable monster. <br /> <br /> But he remains a monster with nukes. Which means I have no desire to rush headlong into a war with him.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--unfurl js-unfurl fauxBlockLink" data-unfurl="true" data-result-id="6168" data-url="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60859337?fbclid=IwAR36Q0AS0xQ-H7WEubHHCUF86iJtwSxu8M1Bxz4gxsFHi_k0DRxXBsxjkv8" data-host="www.bbc.com" data-pending="false"> <div class="contentRow"> <div class="contentRow-figure contentRow-figure--fixedSmall js-unfurl-figure"> <img src="https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/13C29/production/_123873908_ship.jpg" loading="lazy" alt="www.bbc.com" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-image" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </div> <div class="contentRow-main"> <h3 class="contentRow-header js-unfurl-title"> <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60859337?fbclid=IwAR36Q0AS0xQ-H7WEubHHCUF86iJtwSxu8M1Bxz4gxsFHi_k0DRxXBsxjkv8" class="link link--external fauxBlockLink-blockLink" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-proxy-href=""> Russian warship destroyed in occupied port of Berdyansk, says Ukraine </a> </h3> <div class="contentRow-snippet js-unfurl-desc">Ukraine&#039;s navy says the Orsk, which was used to ferry Russian troops, was hit in Berdyansk.</div> <div class="contentRow-minor contentRow-minor--hideLinks"> <span class="js-unfurl-favicon"> <img src="https://static.files.bbci.co.uk/bbcdotcom/web/20251105-121702-1a3e907763-web-2.33.1-3/favicon-32x32.png" loading="lazy" alt="www.bbc.com" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-icon" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </span> www.bbc.com </div> </div> </div> </div></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 22144" data-quote="Willber" data-source="post: 708264" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=708264" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-708264">Willber said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Russian intervention, one can sense he’s likely speaking the truth. You don’t get a feeling he’s being phony, or is lying. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> No dude, I’m not going to listen to Putin and watch his speech. <i>Especially</i> since you recommended it. Every contribution thus far you’ve brought to this forum is inane and a waste of time, whether it be tree related or not.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 20358" data-quote="Stumpsprouts" data-source="post: 708292" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=708292" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-708292">Stumpsprouts said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> No dude, I’m not going to listen to Putin and watch his speech. <i>Especially</i> since you recommended it. Every contribution thus far you’ve brought to this forum is inane and a waste of time, whether it be tree related or not. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Not to listen to the speech of a pivotal person, many are criticizing, is not to my demise.<br /> It&#039;s willful ignorance.<br /> History will repeat itself, wether or not one wants to acknowledge it or not.<br /> The way one can be derogatory to another, speaks volumes about that person.</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 22144" data-quote="Willber" data-source="post: 708306" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=708306" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-708306">Willber said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Not to listen to the speech of a pivotal person, many are criticizing, is not to my demise.<br /> It&#039;s willful ignorance.<br /> History will repeat itself, wether or not one wants to acknowledge it or not.<br /> The way one can be derogatory to another, speaks volumes about that person. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> There is not one thing about P that deserves to be shared here on Treebuzz. There are plenty of other platforms and opportunities for that elsewhere.<br /> <br /> If there is anyone who wants to carry on this discussion get hold of the person and take it to your house. I&#039;m done with being tolerant about this line.</div>
 
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