Roe v Wade overturned

Though I will admit after reading almost the entire thing, the two sides have a very different story lines. I still feel like the coach's freedom of speech and religion was infringed on...but he may have pressed the issue publicly more than I would have. Then again,I felt that the government was becoming almost anti-christian, and at some point one just needs to make a stand.
 
Going back to the abortion issue, do those of you who believe life begins at conception believe so on moral grounds or religious grounds?

If on religious grounds, how do you consolidate that with the Great Flood? If God flooded the earth and killed everything and everyone that wasn't aboard the ark, don't you think a few innocent fetuses perished?
 
climbhightree said:
I'm not defending violence or killing. In fact I would think it is pretty obvious I respect all lives, not just some of them (like those in the womb).

I've said from the very beginning that I just don't feel guns are the problem, the are just the solution people are using. If there were no guns, it would not stop the violence and blood shed. Would there be less deaths? Possibly to probably, but the problem/issues would not be fixed. Plus there is other disadvantages to disarming America.
Click to expand...
Its odd that you would deny defending the gun because your words here tell a very different story.. One in which you are in fact defending the gun while using the typical dishonest, copy and paste 2nd amender nonsense (exactly what you're accused of doing). And nary a word about the lost innocent lives here...Its crystal clear that you place much more value on the gun than you do on the innocent lives lost to gun violence..The fact that you don't have the balls or courage to simply own your words speaks volumes as to your character...

"I do blame them some indirectly for their policies that degrade morals, break down of families, fairness of the law, consequences for actions, helping people up vs giving them a handout, etc. Both sides have their faults, and I am willing to look at both sides (obviously since I took the time to look at and organize some of the stats).

Yes, I lean conservative republican so I tend to agree more with that side. I definitely don't blame a gun, or even the access to a gun, for a homicide. Taking away guns doesn't solve the problem, or prevent the violence."


"I do blame them some indirectly for their policies that degrade morals, break down of families, fairness of the law, consequences for actions, helping people up vs giving them a handout, etc. Both sides have their faults, and I am willing to look at both sides (obviously since I took the time to look at and organize some of the stats).

Yes, I lean conservative republican so I tend to agree more with that side. I definitely don't blame a gun, or even the access to a gun, for a homicide. Taking away guns doesn't solve the problem, or prevent the violence."


"How many of those deaths were in democrat run cities, where gun control is already extremely tight (therefore gun control is not the problem)?"

In the spirit of keeping it positive I would like to give you some heartfelt kudos for your amazing ability to take dishonesty, hypocrisy, and word saladry to near art-form like levels.. Bravo bro! Bravo!

No doubt our little love affair was doomed from the moment you utter these cowardly, disrespectful, disgusting, cruel, and inhumane words- "They have a right to not spread their legs."

Add to that the fact that you have shown yourself to be completely incapable of being honest with your words, and it becomes very clear the time has come for me to bid you adieu.

Here's to hoping and praying that the gods never again allow our paths to cross.
 
Last edited:
JCB said:
THOMAS JEFFERSON ON CONSTITUTIONAL ORIGINALISM

View attachment 82607
Click to expand...
I have no problem with that. The Constitution was created in a way that it can be adjusted and changed, through a legal process of the government and the states. Not just judges ruling one way or another. What the current justices did was correct the illegal change, and put back to the states where it belongs. There is a legal process to create law/ammendments.
 
rico said:
Its odd that you would deny defending the gun because your words here tell a very different story.. One in which you are in fact defending the gun while using the typical dishonest, copy and paste 2nd amender nonsense (exactly what you're accused of doing). And nary a word about the lost innocent lives here...Its crystal clear that you place much more value on the gun than you do on the innocent lives lost to gun violence..The fact that you don't have the balls or courage to simply own your words speaks volumes as to your character...

"I do blame them some indirectly for their policies that degrade morals, break down of families, fairness of the law, consequences for actions, helping people up vs giving them a handout, etc. Both sides have their faults, and I am willing to look at both sides (obviously since I took the time to look at and organize some of the stats).

Yes, I lean conservative republican so I tend to agree more with that side. I definitely don't blame a gun, or even the access to a gun, for a homicide. Taking away guns doesn't solve the problem, or prevent the violence."


"I do blame them some indirectly for their policies that degrade morals, break down of families, fairness of the law, consequences for actions, helping people up vs giving them a handout, etc. Both sides have their faults, and I am willing to look at both sides (obviously since I took the time to look at and organize some of the stats).

Yes, I lean conservative republican so I tend to agree more with that side. I definitely don't blame a gun, or even the access to a gun, for a homicide. Taking away guns doesn't solve the problem, or prevent the violence."


"How many of those deaths were in democrat run cities, where gun control is already extremely tight (therefore gun control is not the problem)?"

In the spirit of keeping it positive I would like to give you some heartfelt kudos for your amazing ability to take dishonesty, hypocrisy, and word saladry to near art-form like levels.. Bravo bro! Bravo!

No doubt our little love affair was doomed from the moment you utter these cowardly, disrespectful, disgusting, cruel, and inhumane words- "They have a right to not spread their legs."

Add to that the fact that you have shown yourself to be completely incapable of being honest with your words, and it becomes very clear the time has come for me to bid you adieu.

Here's to hoping and praying that the gods never again allow our paths to cross.
Click to expand...
Bye bye

Slow clap for you figuring out how to quote correctly...sort of.

But you are still twisting my words. Let me more simple. Guns are a tool and inanimate object. They do not get angry or mean...no emotions. It is the person that is controlling the gun, that is the problem. Take away guns, and you still have a problem. You still have violence and death.

You say I have no concern about innocent life, yet I want to protect the only innocent life that doesn't have a voice, a baby. I've also said I would willingly trade my life for any one else's innocent life no matter their age, race, income level.

The murders, and school killings are wrong and evil. But the gun is just a tool, not the cause.
 
Dan Cobb said:
Going back to the abortion issue, do those of you who believe life begins at conception believe so on moral grounds or religious grounds?

If on religious grounds, how do you consolidate that with the Great Flood? If God flooded the earth and killed everything and everyone that wasn't aboard the ark, don't you think a few innocent fetuses perished?
Click to expand...
Or just simply scientific grounds. Just Google "when does life begin science" and this is one of many results with the same concurrence.

Sent from my SM-G970U1 using Tapatalk
947d9788aa2f81124fe7af365108b1c5.jpg
 
Last edited:
Boomslang said:
Yep, you can't stop people from killing each other, but you can make it harder.

The attitude of "well we can't fix it, so why try" is pathetic.
Click to expand...
Ummm I never said I didn't want to fix it, in fact I said I want to fix the root of the problem. Fix it before the person grabs a knife, gun, bomb etc and goes out to get attention/revenge or whatever their goal is.

To get rid of guns in this country would be almost impossible. So why not focus on getting rid of the root of the problem instead of the tool? A tool that can even be used by good people to prevent a mass killing.
 
climbhightree said:
But you are still twisting my words.
Click to expand...
The character of a cowardly little man who just can't own his words...No twisting needed here..


"I do blame them some indirectly for their policies that degrade morals, break down of families, fairness of the law, consequences for actions, helping people up vs giving them a handout, etc. Both sides have their faults, and I am willing to look at both sides (obviously since I took the time to look at and organize some of the stats).

Yes, I lean conservative republican so I tend to agree more with that side. I definitely don't blame a gun, or even the access to a gun, for a homicide. Taking away guns doesn't solve the problem, or prevent the violence."


"I do blame them some indirectly for their policies that degrade morals, break down of families, fairness of the law, consequences for actions, helping people up vs giving them a handout, etc. Both sides have their faults, and I am willing to look at both sides (obviously since I took the time to look at and organize some of the stats).

Yes, I lean conservative republican so I tend to agree more with that side. I definitely don't blame a gun, or even the access to a gun, for a homicide. Taking away guns doesn't solve the problem, or prevent the violence."


"How many of those deaths were in democrat run cities, where gun control is already extremely tight (therefore gun control is not the problem)?"
 
climbhightree said:
Ummm I never said I didn't want to fix it, in fact I said I want to fix the root of the problem. Fix it before the person grabs a knife, gun, bomb etc and goes out to get attention/revenge or whatever their goal is.

To get rid of guns in this country would be almost impossible. So why not focus on getting rid of the root of the problem instead of the tool? A tool that can even be used by good people to prevent a mass killing.
Click to expand...
So what is the root? Mental health? Radicalization? Media sensationalism? Desperation? Pure evil? All of the above.

That's a lot to unpack and deal with. Why not restrict access to the most readily available and efficient killing tool in the meantime?
 
Boomslang said:
So what is the root? Mental health? Radicalization? Media sensationalism? Desperation? Pure evil? All of the above.

That's a lot to unpack and deal with. Why not restrict access to the most readily available and efficient killing tool in the meantime?
Click to expand...
It is a lot to unpack. It took years to decades to create it, and there is no easy fix. I won't deny any of that.

A. Because it is against the law and constitution of America.

B. It also harms good law abiding citizens.

C. No hunting?

D. No protection from this government or outside one? Or from crimmals trying to rape your daughter or wife?
 
I think life begins at conception on logical grounds: not religious or moral.

The religion and morality come into the question of terminating it or not.

I guess most of the advocates of abortion , a strangely agitated and excited group , focus on trying to come up with a more illogical time to call it life because they can't deal with the moral or religious ramifications of that.
 
rico said:
The character of a cowardly little man who just can't own his words...No twisting needed here..


"I do blame them some indirectly for their policies that degrade morals, break down of families, fairness of the law, consequences for actions, helping people up vs giving them a handout, etc. Both sides have their faults, and I am willing to look at both sides (obviously since I took the time to look at and organize some of the stats).

Yes, I lean conservative republican so I tend to agree more with that side. I definitely don't blame a gun, or even the access to a gun, for a homicide. Taking away guns doesn't solve the problem, or prevent the violence."


"I do blame them some indirectly for their policies that degrade morals, break down of families, fairness of the law, consequences for actions, helping people up vs giving them a handout, etc. Both sides have their faults, and I am willing to look at both sides (obviously since I took the time to look at and organize some of the stats).

Yes, I lean conservative republican so I tend to agree more with that side. I definitely don't blame a gun, or even the access to a gun, for a homicide. Taking away guns doesn't solve the problem, or prevent the violence."


"How many of those deaths were in democrat run cities, where gun control is already extremely tight (therefore gun control is not the problem)?"
Click to expand...
Here let me help you some. Here is a screen shot of the first few quotes you put above...you missed a line and also repeated things..

Screenshot_20220627-200457_Chrome.jpg
I am actually blaming both parties. I think the other one was earlier in the thread. Which is also a true state. There are a lot of cities with very strict gun laws but that hasn't prevented gun violence, gang shootings etc.
 
climbhightree said:
It is a lot to unpack. It took years to decades to create it, and there is no easy fix. I won't deny any of that.

A. Because it is against the law and constitution of America.

B. It also harms good law abiding citizens.

C. No hunting?

D. No protection from this government or outside one? Or from crimmals trying to rape your daughter or wife?
Click to expand...
I said restrict, not ban.

A. Fuck your laws and Constitution. How about common sense and morality.

B. The good of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

C. Hunting is fine....but you don't need an AR-15 or expanded magazine for that.

D. Protection from what!? What is this constant fear Americans live in. The odds of you being present for your wife's/daughter's rape are about the same as them being impregnated by their rapist and forced to bear the offspring.

You are literally the only 1st world country that has the problems you have and are in complete denial about it.
 
Boomslang said:
D. Protection from what!? What is this constant fear Americans live in. The odds of you being present for your wife's/daughter's rape are about the same as them being impregnated by their rapist and forced to bear the offspring.

You are literally the only 1st world country that has the problems you have and are in complete denial about it.
Click to expand...

D. At least I can protect myself from a potential rapist, then.

Have you heard about what occurred in Oslo, Norway two days ago? I also believe Norway, which I would consider a first world country, has fairly strict gun laws.

Sent from my SM-G970U1 using Tapatalk
 
Last edited:
Boomslang said:
I said restrict, not ban.

A. Fuck your laws and Constitution. How about common sense and morality.

B. The good of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

C. Hunting is fine....but you don't need an AR-15 or expanded magazine for that.

D. Protection from what!? What is this constant fear Americans live in. The odds of you being present for your wife's/daughter's rape are about the same as them being impregnated by their rapist and forced to bear the offspring.

You are literally the only 1st world country that has the problems you have and are in complete denial about it.
Click to expand...
Pretty sure that you don't live in the USA, so you don't have a say in our law, constitution or way of life. Thankfully.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

New threads New posts

Kask Stihl NORTHEASTERN Arborists Wesspur TreeStuff.com Teufelberger Westminster X-Rigging Teufelberger
Back
Top Bottom