respect.

some of the same Vids were posted on TreeHouse ... yes there was some critique , even negative ... but it ALL remained polite and constructive ... Gerry says none of us started out doing high quality work in the trees ...
 
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not you though Chip

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I second that....

Chip has got to go......




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...get laid
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Gerry says none of us started out doing high quality work in the trees ...

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Speak for yourself. I started out the best...and got better.

no one's doing it like me.....
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I agree though. Daniel has gotten overly criticized. But he has had it coming, kind of.
 
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Gerry says none of us started out doing high quality work in the trees ...

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Speak for yourself. I started out the best...and got better.

no one's doing it like me.....
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I agree though. Daniel has gotten overly criticized. But he has had it coming, kind of.

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That's exactly what came to mind for me too.

Even though I began at country clubs, I was doing tree care top notch, plus attending college for tree care classes taught by a consulting arborist at the same time.

That was in the 1980s and most of what I learned then is still current.
 
This started well before I was even on the radar here..

I think Tom D has done a particularly poor job of moderating and/or setting the tone for ettiquette here.. There has to be some strong leadership or a critical mass of consciousness to keep things clean and respectful..

Otherwise people will talk a bunch of garbage. Its been demeaning for me to allow myself to get dragged down into this mess. Glad there are others that find this as distastefull as I do, and are willing to say so.
 
Daniel...from the beginning of TB Mark and I have expected that people who participate be responsible for what they say. TB is NOT grade school. Over the past ten years there have been plenty of things said that I would NOT tolerate in person. But...this is a format where more toleration of content and attitude have to be tolerated. If someone creates something they need to be responsible for what is created. There's no crying afterward.

I've heard criticism and praise for the moderation that Mark and I have done for years.

Since the beginning of the online arbo discussions many years ago I've seen a lot of moderation styles. A number of threads on the original ISA forum where deleted by someone in Champaign with no explanation. Besides the rough edges they deleted the core of a good conversation. After that, it was hard to trust the Wizard of ISA behind the curtain. On some forums the owner/mods are so heavy handed that if you don't cowtow and suck up to them you're banned and trashed. Neither of these happen at TB.

Years ago Turi Ryder had a drive time radio show in the Twin Cities. She had an attitude and mouth as big as Lake Superior. She would get callers on that would rant and rail at her about what she was saying. Her offer, which was free, was to have a producer meet with the caller at their house, come to the radio, and change the station. For free...

If you don't like the editorial stance that Mark and I take then change the station. Neither of us have ever taken on parenting roles for people on TB.

Also, no one has a clue what goes on behind the scenes...it seems like nothing, but that couldn't be further from the truth.
 
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This started well before I was even on the radar here..

I think Tom D has done a particularly poor job of moderating and/or setting the tone for ettiquette here.. There has to be some strong leadership or a critical mass of consciousness to keep things clean and respectful..

Otherwise people will talk a bunch of garbage. Its been demeaning for me to allow myself to get dragged down into this mess. Glad there are others that find this as distastefull as I do, and are willing to say so.

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I couldn't help but think that in the time it took you to post this, you could have started on the gutter cleaning video.

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This started well before I was even on the radar here..

I think Tom D has done a particularly poor job of moderating and/or setting the tone for ettiquette here.. There has to be some strong leadership or a critical mass of consciousness to keep things clean and respectful..

Otherwise people will talk a bunch of garbage. Its been demeaning for me to allow myself to get dragged down into this mess. Glad there are others that find this as distastefull as I do, and are willing to say so.

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I couldn't help but think that in the time it took you to post this, you could have started on the gutter cleaning video.

SZ

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let me guess...
"Don't laugh, it works"
 
Maybe the moderators should have done a better job with these gems, huh?

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you're just another idiot

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ARE you retarded or just plain stupid?

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Just because you are cluless,

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keep your stupid criticisms to yourself.

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I KNOW I AM hearing from an ignorrant, inexperienced, small minded, arborist

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So you can stick Occam's razor where the sun don't shine..

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wipe that stupid grin off your face..

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Keep in mind that the title of this thread is “respect”. Does this sound like someone giving or deserving of respect?
 
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I only wish I'd have started out like that. That's refreshing to hear. Sincerely.

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How ironic that whiz's post was so sincerely humble... Only to be followed by more defensive whining. Weak indeed.

-Tom
 
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This started well before I was even on the radar here..

I think Tom D has done a particularly poor job of moderating and/or setting the tone for ettiquette here.. There has to be some strong leadership or a critical mass of consciousness to keep things clean and respectful..

Otherwise people will talk a bunch of garbage. Its been demeaning for me to allow myself to get dragged down into this mess. Glad there are others that find this as distastefull as I do, and are willing to say so.

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You are a sociopath.
 

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