Porty anchor

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I absolutely without a doubt trust my portys and rigging 100%, and when compromised, it isnt anywhere near my sites. But that doesnt mean Im foolish enough to use rigging equipment for life support. Name one climbing discipline where it would be acceptable to use anything other than "climbing equipment" for life support.

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To much dogma! ....belongs in a church.
A Port-a-Wrap does lend itself well to visual inspection. I'd have no problem using one for life support if it's in good shape and not damaged or bent in any way.

Let's not forget that we use a huge unknown to rig from while it supports our lives! Is it safe to use a tree for life support that is being rigged from? Using the dogma being applied to the port-a-wrap by the previous poster, I would have to say no. Is a visual inspection good enough to judge a tree safe for life support and rigging?
 
point taken. i concede. Not good. Just being honest about what I have done and how I felt about it. I have used a porty that I rig off of to climb on. I tend to make decisions off of what i see and as I go, using the equipment that I have. I inspect things.
truthfully though, I hardly ever even do any rigging as i rarely cut down trees. I absolutely never decend on a friction hitch alone without a heat sink as I quickly found it flat out doesn't work. (but yes, I have done it).

My Porta-wrap is too heavy to carry anywhere so it mostly stays at home. Heavy rigging mostly gets done on the GRCS. (which I have also tied off to, sorry).

I have also tied myself off to my pick up truck hitch. That gets used for rigging sometimes too. Most of the time I tie off with tree wraps, preferably to another tree.

Come to think of it, cranes get used for rigging and climbing all the time. I have never done a crane job though.

I dont like gri-gris. not even for rock climbing, they sketch me out. I do not own one or any of its relatives.
 
Agreed Danno. A porty does lend itself well to visual inspection. Again its a discipline for me.... no rigging on climbing gear, no climbing on rigging gear.
As far as the tree goes, that is the one unknown. I do my best to keep myself out of rigging and tied to separate leads whenever possible.

To each their own, I still think, and always will think someone who cross uses their climbing and rigging gear is asking for trouble. Maybe Im over cautious? OCD? Call it what you will. Im very meticulous with my equipment, techniques, methods and disciplines. Safe and efficient and take no chances.
 
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Why is a porty the exception?


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cuase we talking about having a mini that is only used for anchor of the srt not being used for rigging at all.
 
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Is there anything in the ansi about using rigging gear for climbing? I looked, but found nothing.

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Unfortunately there isn't in the Z. All it says in 8.4.5 is "When the potential exists for rigging equipment to be confused with climbing equipment, the equipment shall be clearly marked to indicate their different purposes."
 
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Why is a porty the exception?


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cuase we talking about having a mini that is only used for anchor of the srt not being used for rigging at all.

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Is we?

Read the thread. It seems not.
 
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Why is a porty the exception?


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cuase we talking about having a mini that is only used for anchor of the srt not being used for rigging at all.

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Is we?

Read the thread. It seems not.

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Some of we is.
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Dave
 
one thing with the porta wrap that sucks is that it is heavy. everytime you take your weight off the rope it pulls the whole rope down and then when you lean back you pick it back up again. That kind of sucks. tree wraps are best.
 

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