planting with crano

treevet

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I have had some success planting larger trees (not huge) with the cranes I have owned over the years. Lately I have had access to a nursery's stock of 5" dbh, 3k lb.rootball, 25 foot Autumn blaze maples. These are a Silver maple cultivar so very resilient and not a huge risk if done properly of losing them We sometimes cut the wholes with the stump grinder.

I am getting a bunch of requests as ho's are tired of looking at trees that are pathetically small for years. I stay away from some species, most notably beech with I have been bitten by in the wallet by before.

It pays like a respectable days tree work and nice for a change. Anyone else doing this and want to give some tips?
 

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What not to do. I've straped smaller trees like this before to move them with no problem. This one was much larger and ripped off the bark as it choked hard on the stem. I lost 80% or more of the bark tissue around the stem. I tried to put the bark back on but it didn't take and the tree did not make it. I had dug up the tree from my place to make room for a deck on our pool. I was devastated when we took the straps and cloth off to see what happened.
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I should have strapped it from under the root ball. Next time I guess.
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When I moved a few years back, I took some of my 4 to 6' tall Austrian Pines. I dug around the root ball to make a trench, and then soaked it down real good for a day. Then I started pulling, while persuading the root ball to let go with a shovel, pulled a little harder, etc. Out of 6 I did this way, all survived, one just barely hanging in there due to trunk damage, the other 5 doing good.

I also planted a lot of new trees, some up to 12', and I picked them all from the bottom of the root ball, some had a wire cage around the ball, making it real easy to rig too.
 
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What not to do. I've straped smaller trees like this before to move them with no problem. This one was much larger and ripped off the bark as it choked hard on the stem. I lost 80% or more of the bark tissue around the stem. I tried to put the bark back on but it didn't take and the tree did not make it. I had dug up the tree from my place to make room for a deck on our pool. I was devastated when we took the straps and cloth off to see what happened.
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I should have strapped it from under the root ball. Next time I guess.
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We been choking the ball with a 14 footer and the stem where you got it with a 6 footer with a thick towel wrapped under it. When in the hole we take off the bottom one and re set the tree with the upper one. Most of the weight is on the ball so we are getting no damage on the stem.
 
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I gotta ask why you planted that one in the first post so close to the powerlines?

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It is not quite as close as it appears to the primaries but very close to the house access. I always put down a large traffic cone where I suggest it goes in the area where they want it then leave it for their approval. Then they can move it and then I do battle where I think it should go.

She wanted it there and it was not laying water there and we are just going to have to prune it around the house access. In other words....she fought with her husband about it and she says we aren't gonna be alive long enough for it to become a problem and....

Her husband, a retired high ranking navy officer and my accountant, and little ole me....do what the women tell us to do ultimately lol.
 
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What not to do. I've straped smaller trees like this before to move them with no problem. This one was much larger and ripped off the bark as it choked hard on the stem. I lost 80% or more of the bark tissue around the stem. I tried to put the bark back on but it didn't take and the tree did not make it. I had dug up the tree from my place to make room for a deck on our pool. I was devastated when we took the straps and cloth off to see what happened.
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I should have strapped it from under the root ball. Next time I guess.
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Man, those purple trees, that appears to be a Crimson King Maple (Norway cultivar) just look so beautiful in a landscape like that. Did you get one in there after that one was damaged?

What part of Jersey are you in? I was in Flemington for 10 of my 41 years.
 
Try using 2 straps around the rootball with a spreader bar above the crown of the tree. I would not put straps around any part of the tree even if it is protected. All it takes is one small tear in the bark and the client rejects it.
 
sounds like the canopy could tip over on a 30 foot plus tree causing damage. Got any picts of that tech? If you had 3 or 4 less likely. But this is used on real big trees and we are going for speed to either do 2 of them in a day or do a little tree work afterwards.

Huge trees are a big production....pict
 

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Not to change the subject....but if you're going to post pictures of your crane, expect some smart comments! As in, where is the required anti-2 block device, apologies in advance if it's there, but I ain't seeing it? When ever I check out another rig, I look there first. I'm surprised no one else commented on it not being there. OK, back to the tree moving thing....
 
I tried to type " " after smart, and I couldn't do it, are we being edited for bad langauge? Lets see, if all you see is the above without in it, I guess so.
 
Treevet- sorry, no pics. I was watching this technique with a local landscape company. They were planting 16-18' spruce on a berm. Rootballs were 5-6'. Worked well for them.

If your trees are in leaf, I could see balance being an issue.
 
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How about donkey, can we say that? So... that'd be "smart donkey comments".

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hahaha, so silly this permitted language use sometimes. I try not to be a wise posterior myself haha.

Yeah, no anti two block, but sold a while back and now someone's prob.
 
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Treevet- sorry, no pics. I was watching this technique with a local landscape company. They were planting 16-18' spruce on a berm. Rootballs were 5-6'. Worked well for them.

If your trees are in leaf, I could see balance being an issue.

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I am gonna give that one a try Zale. Sure will go in the hole better that my way and you can spin it for the best side easier without resetting it. Been meaning to get a spreader bar and this a good reason. Might even work well with no spreader and 2 chokes on the ball on opposites.

It just will take setting it down on the ground instead of going straight into the hole. (hope this paragraph don't get censored lol)
 
I don't think they edit a goddamned thing I write? I can't help myself from swearing . . . it's like a f*cking curse or something.

BTW, those are nice installations; and a good way to get a larger tree planted. The crane giveth and the crane taketh away.
 
when i mentioned to the customer during an estimate that this laceleaf japanese maple had heavy amount of japanese maple scale insect that need to be treated, he said it didn't matter because they were having the landscaper cut it down. said it was too big for the area.

i said, "do you mind if i try to dig it up and take it".

he said to help myself.

parked k-boom on street cause it looked like his concrete drive might crack.

put the hose on it, cut roots with digging bars and shovels.

rooted REALLY DEEP (with all that construction airspaces in soil near house).

just kept working it up and down up and down, eventually came up. 20 -30 minutes?

nice prize. doing awesome at my pond.
 

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