petzl sequoia

I'll let you know on Monday , my belt is all pack and ready to go . I'll be out in Catalina Island this wk-end to do some big Euc's


Later from SO-CAL
 
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MTCinc,

I was looking at this saddle as it has an option for a fall arrest harness to be added. I like this due to the added weight of a large saw during crane removals. I also like this for the option of working out of a bucket with my saddle on, and still having the dorsal attachment.



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I am fairly certain it is not rated for fall arrest, a Petzl rep checked in at AS to say so. The attachments are there to add suspenders/croll.

I climbed in mine on saturday and loved it. A little concerned when I was going through the literature and found it to be rated at 15kn? WTF?
 
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MTCinc,

I was looking at this saddle as it has an option for a fall arrest harness to be added. I like this due to the added weight of a large saw during crane removals. I also like this for the option of working out of a bucket with my saddle on, and still having the dorsal attachment.



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I am fairly certain it is not rated for fall arrest, a Petzl rep checked in at AS to say so. The attachments are there to add suspenders/croll.

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I believe that U.S. standard for work fall arrest is that the dorsal suspender attachment is a permanent attachment to the belt, not a removable or optional attachment. This is just from what I've observed looking at what's available for fall arrest, I've never found a stock dorsal fall arrest that's detachable or attachable to a sit/positioning harness.
-moss
 
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MTCinc,

I was looking at this saddle as it has an option for a fall arrest harness to be added. I like this due to the added weight of a large saw during crane removals. I also like this for the option of working out of a bucket with my saddle on, and still having the dorsal attachment.



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I am fairly certain it is not rated for fall arrest, a Petzl rep checked in at AS to say so. The attachments are there to add suspenders/croll.

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I believe that U.S. standard for work fall arrest is that the dorsal suspender attachment is a permanent attachment to the belt, not a removable or optional attachment. This is just from what I've observed looking at what's available for fall arrest, I've never found a stock dorsal fall arrest that's detachable or attachable to a sit/positioning harness.
-moss

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Moss: Maybe its just that, because there is no test standard for North American sit harnesses, a fall arrest harness cannot be made up from one?

I believe the USA standard for fall arrest also allows dorsal only attachments, wheres as the euro standard for fall arrest allows sternal and/or dorsal.

A Euro sit harness can be converted to a fall arrest harness, as long as it has passed the test requirements for fall arrest. This allows great modular adaptability.

Zac: I'm not sure the TreeAustria is convertible to fall arrest.
 
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MTCinc,

I have too been looking at this saddle. I have a few questions i was hopeing you could answer. First Iam looking for a good all around saddle. By that i mean one that i can use to do crane work, hand climb take downs, bucket work, as well as large mature tree pruning.

I was looking at this saddle as it has an option for a fall arrest harness to be added. I like this due to the added weight of a large saw during crane removals. I also like this for the option of working out of a bucket with my saddle on, and still having the dorsal attachment.

So my question is are their places on the saddle to attach a stronger carabiner than the caritool, for my chainsaw. The caritool really is not designed for holding a large saw. Also, do you fing that the leg loops are sliding on you at all? Sometimes on saddles like this the leg loops will slide so the pad is on the outside of your leg not the inside

Thanks

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Hey Royce,

As far as being an all around saddle, for me it is. But, I mainly prune. I do some removals, more on the small end, and never do cranes or buckets.

As far as adding stronger carabiners, no problem. They can go in place of the caritool attachment points. I believe there are 7, maybe 8 spots for them.

The leg loops: They do not move an inch. At least they don't on the SRT version (which sounds like the one you would want, based on doing bucket work? ) They are stitched in place and do not rotate one bit, unlike my other saddles. That was the biggest surprise to me.

After another week of work, I love this saddle. I have not carried any thing bigger then a 200 with me, so not sure how it will hold a bigger saw, but my guess is it will be fine, especially if you get the shoulder straps for it. BTW, you can only attach the shoulder straps on the SRT version

Hope this helps, let me know if you want more feedback
 
I just read through this thread about the new Petzl Sequoia harness. As a Sales Representative for Petzl America I will try to answer some of the questions in the following posts.
 
Re: petzl sequoia/flat bridge vs. rope bridge

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just got my sequoia today. really nice. i need to figure out a system for the flat bridge though. Im used to a rope bridge. All the adjustment points are two way which makes it adjustable on the fly which is great. anyone else get one yet?

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The Sequoia harness uses flat nylon webbing to construct the bridge for a number of reasons. To mention just a few:

Strength
The sewn flat webbing bridge is as strong or stronger than any tied rope bridge.

Durability
Flat webbing holds up to abrasion much better than rope.

Reliability
Factory sewn connections are more consistently reliable than knots.
 
Re: petzl sequoia/attachment points

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Sorry for picking your brain but I am fairly set on getting one of these harnesses for the new season. I understand there are two models, one for DRT and one for SRT... my question being; "does the DRT model have an additional rated attachment point other than the brige, say in the middle of the waist belt?" It's hard to tell from the photos I've seen.
Thanks

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The primary attachment point is the bridge. Attaching to the waist belt is not recommended. The two aluminum D rings on each side are secondary attachment points to be used for positioning.
 
Re: petzl sequoia/ANSI certification

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I thought the Sequoia wasn't ANSI rated anyways.

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The Sequoia is not ANSI certified.

BTW. ANSI Z359.1 is a construction standard for fall arrest. The Sequoia is a work positioning harness.
 
Re: petzl sequoia/life span

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There is a huge difference between the 3-5 year life expectancy given by the manufacturers and the seeming service life of gear. Since a company lives or dies on liability they are hardly to blame for trying to minimize their exposure. Also, we as consumers ask for guidelines.

Anyone who knows the story of how Yvon Chouinard lost control of Black Diamond because of a court ruling of liability will understand the extreme CYA attitude of manufacturers.

I am betting dollars to donuts that any harness manufacturer has said that the life expectancy of their harnesses is no more than 3-5 years. When I was reading about the ANSI harness standards I found that this was true for many fall arrest harnesses. There are companies who make FA harnesses who also make work positioning harnesses that arbos use. It is unimaginable that they would have two different life expectancies.

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Consumers ask manufacturers for life expectancy. The myriad of variables involved make determining useful life an almost impossible task. Tom is correct in that the 3-5 year life span recommendation is a way to give consumers an idea of what they can expect while allowing manufacturers to CYA.

For those of you who do not know the Yvon Chouinard story: YC owned both Chouinard Equipment (climbing gear) and Patagonia (softwear). Chouinard Equipment was sued by the family of a man wearing a Chouinard Equipment harness who died in the Tetons. Chouinard Equipment won the court case but YC realized potential Chouinard Equipment liability set him up to possibly loose Patagonia (the deep pocket) in a future law suit.

Rather than close the doors at Chouinard Equipment he opted to sell the company to its employees. Voila, Black Diamond was born.
 
Re: petzl sequoia/value

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If a climber feels that a heavier and cheaper saddle represents better value for money, then I'm happy they have the opportunity to buy it.

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Every climber should choose his harness depending on his personal needs and budget. A less expensive harness may be more cost effective for some, a more expensive harness more cost effective for others. Choose the harness that is appropriate for you, not someone else.
 
Re: petzl sequoia/market demands change

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There is a huge difference between the 3-5 year life expectancy given by the manufacturers and the seeming service life of gear.

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However these new saddles really do fall apart at about the same amount of time (or sooner) than the manufacturers stated CYA lifespan.

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This is a new trend with manufactures. Maybe it is necessary in order to discover better designs, but it is still a product which does not serve the owner for very long at all.



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The market has and will always change to meet the demands of the consumer. So a twenty year old design made of canvas and leather doesn't wear out. It is also heavier, and less comfortable. Newer harness designs are lighter and more comfortable. Everything is a trade off. The question to ask yourself is which trade offs are best for "me" and make your choice accordingly.

I would recommend you reserve judgment about durability until the harness has been around and in use for a while.
 
Re: petzl sequoia/\"round plastic thingy\"

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just got my sequoia today. really nice. i need to figure out a system for the flat bridge though. Im used to a rope bridge. All the adjustment points are two way which makes it adjustable on the fly which is great. anyone else get one yet?

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A couple of things that I am not sure why they are on the saddle: The front gearloop has this round, plastic thingy below it, but the diameter of the hole is too small for any carabiner I have ever seen or used to connect anything to it. Also, there is this elastic band with a buckle on it along the front on both sides... no idea what this is for.



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The "round, plastic thingy" is provided as a place to tie your hand saw lanyard.

"elastic band with buckle" You got me. Stump the Rep. I will find out and get back to ya.
 
MTCinc,

Thank you for the info, My minds made up, soon i will have a great new petzl saddle!!!
 
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