Palfinger K-boom demo during TCIA expo week in MD.
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- Longmont, CO
Re: Palfinger K-boom demo FRIDAY 11/06/09 in MD.
Nice pics David. Do you have a close up as to where you tie into the K-boom?
Nice pics David. Do you have a close up as to where you tie into the K-boom?
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Re: Palfinger K-boom demo FRIDAY 11/06/09 in MD.
Hey David! that dude w the white hat looks buff!!
Hey David! that dude w the white hat looks buff!!
allmark
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Re: Palfinger K-boom demo FRIDAY 11/06/09 in MD.
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Hey David! that dude w the white hat looks buff!!
[/ QUOTE ]This one right!
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Hey David! that dude w the white hat looks buff!!
[/ QUOTE ]This one right!
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Re: Palfinger K-boom demo FRIDAY 11/06/09 in MD.
yeah thats the guy...........not!wassup mr allmark
yeah thats the guy...........not!wassup mr allmark
allmark
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Re: Palfinger K-boom demo FRIDAY 11/06/09 in MD.
Re: Palfinger K-boom demo FRIDAY 11/06/09 in MD.
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Nice pics David. Do you have a close up as to where you tie into the K-boom?
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I will look for a picture that might show it.
the palfingers have an eye hole, for a pin for additional equipment, I put 3 loop runners through that location.
I believe allmark says he attaches to a pin at the end of the boom on his.
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Nice pics David. Do you have a close up as to where you tie into the K-boom?
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I will look for a picture that might show it.
the palfingers have an eye hole, for a pin for additional equipment, I put 3 loop runners through that location.
I believe allmark says he attaches to a pin at the end of the boom on his.
allmark
Participating member
Re: Palfinger K-boom demo FRIDAY 11/06/09 in MD.
For tieing in I use a friction saver around a pin that is used for manual extensions. I just had a new sling made up that is better and will get a pic when I get a chance.
For tieing in I use a friction saver around a pin that is used for manual extensions. I just had a new sling made up that is better and will get a pic when I get a chance.
Re: Palfinger K-boom demo FRIDAY 11/06/09 in MD.
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X that is an impressive rig. I am with Jamin and would like to see how you tie in to the k-boom. Thanks.
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okay then.
it's a hole at the end of the boom, it's there for a Pin to attach extentions or attachments like our manbasket or grapple.
i use 3 loop runners and use those 3 loop runners for that purpose only. one has a 3 way gate, the other 2 simple biners.
i suppose one loop runner with one approved 3 way biner would meet the standards... ? But I go with 3 just in case they snagged something and the hole isn't a gentle bend.
i retire the loop runners if they get any fray. usually use them for about a year.
not the best picture, but i looked through some old pics to find some that kinda showed it.
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X that is an impressive rig. I am with Jamin and would like to see how you tie in to the k-boom. Thanks.
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okay then.
it's a hole at the end of the boom, it's there for a Pin to attach extentions or attachments like our manbasket or grapple.
i use 3 loop runners and use those 3 loop runners for that purpose only. one has a 3 way gate, the other 2 simple biners.
i suppose one loop runner with one approved 3 way biner would meet the standards... ? But I go with 3 just in case they snagged something and the hole isn't a gentle bend.
i retire the loop runners if they get any fray. usually use them for about a year.
not the best picture, but i looked through some old pics to find some that kinda showed it.
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Re: Palfinger K-boom demo FRIDAY 11/06/09 in MD.
nice realy nice/ thanks for sharing X
nice realy nice/ thanks for sharing X
classictruckman
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- Ottawa Valley, Ontario, Canada
Re: Palfinger K-boom demo FRIDAY 11/06/09 in MD.
Yes Thank you I've been wondering that myself, may I ask you a question though, why do you climb on a closed system with the crane, don't you find it slows you down as compared to a spliced end with a split tail?
Yes Thank you I've been wondering that myself, may I ask you a question though, why do you climb on a closed system with the crane, don't you find it slows you down as compared to a spliced end with a split tail?
allmark
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Re: Palfinger K-boom demo FRIDAY 11/06/09 in MD.
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Yes Thank you I've been wondering that myself, may I ask you a question though, why do you climb on a closed system with the crane, don't you find it slows you down as compared to a spliced end with a split tail?
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I started with a closed system and climbed with a crane for 5 years. Tied a clove hitch to the d rings and a taughtline for a friction knot. Do it every day and it doesnt slow you down. Either way you are untieing a knot or pulling alot of rope thru it. I still use both systems depending on the day.
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Yes Thank you I've been wondering that myself, may I ask you a question though, why do you climb on a closed system with the crane, don't you find it slows you down as compared to a spliced end with a split tail?
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I started with a closed system and climbed with a crane for 5 years. Tied a clove hitch to the d rings and a taughtline for a friction knot. Do it every day and it doesnt slow you down. Either way you are untieing a knot or pulling alot of rope thru it. I still use both systems depending on the day.
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Re: Palfinger K-boom demo FRIDAY 11/06/09 in MD.
Thanks David.
Thanks David.
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Re: Palfinger K-boom demo FRIDAY 11/06/09 in MD.
Dave,
I am just wondering, why don't you just run the line through the large clevis that supports the hook? Looks like a good point from here.
Dave,
I am just wondering, why don't you just run the line through the large clevis that supports the hook? Looks like a good point from here.
Re: Palfinger K-boom demo FRIDAY 11/06/09 in MD.
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Yes Thank you I've been wondering that myself, may I ask you a question though, why do you climb on a closed system with the crane, don't you find it slows you down as compared to a spliced end with a split tail?
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I use that simple closed system because I feel that I'm actually faster with it.
I expected someone to ask that question.
When i need the rope to be removed from the crane, I untie the prussic knot and untie the two half hitches from the snap and pull that short amount of rope from crane.
On an open system (like picture in attachment) I could still untie from my snap, or if i had a spliced eye, unclip from that eye but then pull the rope through the prussic cord. That pulling of the rope through the prussic cord/pulley and re-attaching to the snap seems to take me longer. I guess it shouldn't, but seems to get messy sometimes.
And I actaully don't like all that extra junk to deal with if re-tying often.
I do use both open and closed systems with tree work, but for crane work and most removals, I use the closed simple system.
Around 2002 or 03 I made myself use a prussic cord and micro-pulley with tying a french prussic for almost a whole season. It's okay but I pretty much went back to a simple closed system you saw in the crane attachment pictures.
I actaully like the loose 4 coil knott on the closed system.
Most modern climbers hate it and are scared of the loose movement.
I do set up an open system with prussic cord and hitch climber pulley (as shown in this 2009 picture) when I have a very large tree to trim and a lot of far out limbwalking. It would probably be the system of choice if I was around electric lines too.
Maybe MattyD can comment on if he thinks my use of the closed system for crane tie in is fast or slow.
MattyD just did his first pine removal with our k-boom last week. He used his prussic cord and hitch climber pulley with an open system. I remember thinking to myself when I was watching; that removing the rope from the crane and re-tying into the tree took a little while longer then when I do it with my simple closed system.
Maybe I should try an open system on the crane again to re-evaluate the speed. But since I don't used spliced eye climbing ropes, tying to my snap or biner will likely slow down the process. I tie to my snap with a bowline and finish the tail with two half hitches since i don't use eye spliced climbing ropes.
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Yes Thank you I've been wondering that myself, may I ask you a question though, why do you climb on a closed system with the crane, don't you find it slows you down as compared to a spliced end with a split tail?
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I use that simple closed system because I feel that I'm actually faster with it.
I expected someone to ask that question.
When i need the rope to be removed from the crane, I untie the prussic knot and untie the two half hitches from the snap and pull that short amount of rope from crane.
On an open system (like picture in attachment) I could still untie from my snap, or if i had a spliced eye, unclip from that eye but then pull the rope through the prussic cord. That pulling of the rope through the prussic cord/pulley and re-attaching to the snap seems to take me longer. I guess it shouldn't, but seems to get messy sometimes.
And I actaully don't like all that extra junk to deal with if re-tying often.
I do use both open and closed systems with tree work, but for crane work and most removals, I use the closed simple system.
Around 2002 or 03 I made myself use a prussic cord and micro-pulley with tying a french prussic for almost a whole season. It's okay but I pretty much went back to a simple closed system you saw in the crane attachment pictures.
I actaully like the loose 4 coil knott on the closed system.
Most modern climbers hate it and are scared of the loose movement.
I do set up an open system with prussic cord and hitch climber pulley (as shown in this 2009 picture) when I have a very large tree to trim and a lot of far out limbwalking. It would probably be the system of choice if I was around electric lines too.
Maybe MattyD can comment on if he thinks my use of the closed system for crane tie in is fast or slow.
MattyD just did his first pine removal with our k-boom last week. He used his prussic cord and hitch climber pulley with an open system. I remember thinking to myself when I was watching; that removing the rope from the crane and re-tying into the tree took a little while longer then when I do it with my simple closed system.
Maybe I should try an open system on the crane again to re-evaluate the speed. But since I don't used spliced eye climbing ropes, tying to my snap or biner will likely slow down the process. I tie to my snap with a bowline and finish the tail with two half hitches since i don't use eye spliced climbing ropes.
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