Over riding the crane

Riggs

Riggs

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Bryn Mawr , Pa.
I saw a crane job today , on the same property I was working. I had to ask how long the climbers have been climbing , between the two of them it was 7- 8 yrs. . The sales manager had to be in his mid twenties. I never saw a harder crane job in my life , and only because of the inexperience of the crew and the guy who "set " the job up . I only ride the crane if I'm doing all the cuts from a bucket or if it is a situation where the the top is gone first and than I have no tie in point . Why ride the crane to every tip to choke it and go down and make a cut and ride up and down all day ? This is a well respected company . Some people are just throwing their young guys to the wolves. If crane work was as hard as I saw it today , I'd find another job. Climb Smart !
 
Only at the trees loaded with fruit, do people throw stones. After jockeying with another tree company who knew we were going to be doing crane work that day we finally started to tackle two 50+" tulip poplars. One a massive double lead, the other topped w/40% root loss. After installing the jib on a 36 ton crane we got to work. Trees went well given the tight quarters. With a large spread why bust your balls to climb all over when you have two large trees to tackle. I understand your point Riggs, but find it sad that after all you saw, you could only come up with one negative comment. Anything nice to say...We are all always learning. I did, however pass one of your crane jobs off of Barberry Rd. and was suprised to see One crane picking up a second crane which had crippled your chip truck and new chipper. THAT WAS EFFECTIVE CRANE USE! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! We will definitely rub shoulders at the jamboree.
 
Hey Roachy, I've met you several times at the symposiums and competitions and definitely respect your abilities. Your a hell of a climber. I've only been climbing for two years and never competition climbed, but we will without a doubt rub shoulders. I WOULD RATHER BE SENT TO THE WOLVES AND SURVIVE THEN NEVER TO HAVE BEEN SENT.
 
Heck, Its months away and already Riggs got the stuff flying for the TCC without even trying! Sounds great it's about time a few more people get of the porch to run with the big dogs!! /forum/images/graemlins/afightee.gif

As for the crane use, if you got a system you like and it works for you great. However, always heed the advice of those at it longer, you may learn soemthing even if you don't change your ways.
 
Now Brooke , I know you lost your mind now . First off , right now you are the blind leading the blind . I make money when I do tree work , I am from Bryn Mawr I'm not an outsider company saying they are from Bryn Mawr when their from KOP . Second I 'm glad I saw you make this job look hard , I thought it was getting easy with all this equipment. Third imagine how much you'd learn if you weren't "the teacher" . It's all good , I love seeing underbidders losing money on jobs in my hometown . It's a beautiful thing . A matter of fact I didn't see too many positive that day other than two good climbers who have no leadership . Throw your stones back but the truth hurts , " you don't know till you know" . Hope to see you at the Jamboree , I'm much nicer there. You'll never make it as long as( or as much ) I have working like the way I saw , trust me .
 
Alright Riggs, I understand your point, now where to go from here. I know I have a lot to learn and definitely gave your advice some thought. What is a good avenue to pursue "to be the student". I haven't found many good teachers out there yet. Any advice or recommendations. What would you have done different on that job, keeping in mind I can only control so much? I climb, not bid.
 
Thats more like it Brooke,Glenn is a ball buster but he tells it like it is.Instead of getting defensive you could of asked him for some advice,that was a missed oppertunity.Its a growing problem in our industry ,climbers are thrust into situations way to fast simply because companys dont have enough experinced help for others to learn from.Or young climbers get to cocky and over value themselves and jump ship for a dollar more an hour ,instead of staying put and learning then earning.I have learned more from guys like Glenn ,Mark C.,Sawdust and Teti than in the first seven years I climbed.Mostly just by being a student and watching but I was never afraid to ask questions even if they broke my stones about it.Hell those guys have forgotten more about removing trees than Ill ever know.
 

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nothing really,stone dead sycamore ,110ft beanpole heading right over this guys house. no axses for equipment of any sort .just a pic dont really know why I threw it in there,mostly cause I cant seem to get a small video clip to work
 
Brooke , I'll take the high road too. Your company owes it to you to give you a seasoned foreman. I
think the Old(er) foreman is a lost part of Arboriculture today . I'm glad I wasn't in your shoes when I was a younger climber . I'll give you advice in person when you compete in the TCC . I'm sure you and Cory will do well . You can't learn it all at seminars and tapes.OJT! They might be the Care of Trees but how much do they care about you ?
 
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Roachy, explain the pic?

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Yah, 'splain why it's so friggin big! /forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
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