Out and down vs. A frame outriggers

cory

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What are the pros and cons of each?

Just wondering what you knowledgeable guys think.

And what about standup controls vs a cab. Of course a cab is more allweather comfortable, but how do the taller control handles perform relative to the smaller finger tip controls in a cab. And if you are going to be getting on and off the crane alot, maybe standup makes more sense?

And what do y'all think of the pros and cons of a front outrigger on a rear mount crane?

Thanks for your input!
 
Bailey tree thinking about a crane?

Looking to hire a climber?
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Thinking about it. We use a very good crane company and their prices are good too but we use them fairly often and of course there are also trees that don't REQUIRE a crane but you'd love to use one on them, so I've been thinking 'bout it.

You'd never leave your spider lift, would you??
 
out and down are way better than Aframe, with Aframe you have a fixed outrigger width and you need to have the room setup, with out and down you can setup even if you have a fence or something in the way. The down side to out and down is that your tipping axis(stability) changes dramatically when you don't extend an outrigger all the way so your better not to swing over that side.

An operator station that swings with the boom is way better than a stand up platform, because its easier on the operator and if the operator is happy the job will run alot smoother.

Of course if you want a deck to carry stuff and don't mid standing up thjis truck might be for you:

http://www.bikboomtrucks.com/content/new-elliott-30105-new-2012-freightliner-m2-112
 
After operating 3 different BTC (behind the cab)boom trucks for over 4500 hours, standing the entire while, and then buying my current mount (Manitex 22101S) I could NEVER go back to :
1.Standing up while looking over your shoulder because that is where the load is.
2. Not having the option to short jack one side or the other in order to set up in tight areas.
3. Having to reset or swing clear the wrong way due to no continuous rotation.

All of these are major advantages, used by me anyway, on almost a dailey basis. The one disadvantage I have found, if working by myself on something that requires a lot of getting off the truck, it can be a pain as it is much higher to get to the seat.

Mine has a full 360 load chart without a front stab needed, as long as the front tires are on the ground, so I can't speak to that.
 
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Of course if you want a deck to carry stuff and don't mid standing up thjis truck might be for you:

http://www.bikboomtrucks.com/content/new-elliott-30105-new-2012-freightliner-m2-112

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This doesnt have continuous rotation which is a draw back. Also it says it has a 180* load chart. Does this mean outrigger to outrigger?

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Unfortunately this dealership isn't very good at typing up the specs and options, because it has a front outrigger it has a 360* chart, and I'm sure that continuous rotation is an option as well. If you look at the rest of the site there is a Sterling with the same model mounted on ti and the options state that it has a 360* chart with the front bumper outrigger.

I think a rear mount would be better anyway because the truck would take up less of the radius.
 

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