Ode To oldirty

[Blakesmaster]

Though I agree with you, OD, I can get the over-safety conscious concept of the notches to a point. Not my style but I understand the mentality. Everyone has their methods and to each his own. What I wonder about is why did he wait for the hook to come back before cutting them? Could have been done while the previous pick was getting dealt with by the ground crew. No offence, CTM, but time management is my paramount concern when the crane bill directly affects my wallet, so little things can stick out like a real sore thumb.

 

[MarquisTree]

What was the technique? Not being a wise just not sure what two sling technique you were showing.
I really don't like the notches for the slings in the last pick, I think u run a much greater risk of breaking the wood with the hook then the slings slipping especially with the notches so close to the top of the log.

Otherwise looked like a very professional job, nice work

 

[treevet]

If I got worries bout a choke slipping off the top on a smooth bark or tree with no bark left and no limbs or branch collars to snug up under

I often go with a steel choker for the bite.

 

[Reg]

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If I got worries bout a choke slipping off the top on a smooth bark or tree with no bark left and no limbs or branch collars to snug up under

I often go with a steel choker for the bite.

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Preload the cable beyond the estimated weight of the log, and then drop it back down before starting the cut. Obviously you need a radio.

That earlier slinging is good for leveling out short logs, Blakesmaster....but obviously the chokers are now not independant so you have to make sure they bite good and proper.

 

[Blakesmaster]

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That earlier slinging is good for leveling out short logs, Blakesmaster....but obviously the chokers are now not independant so you have to make sure they bite good and proper.

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In your opinion, does it offer better balance than just using 2 chokers, set traditionally at 180 degrees opposite each other?

I thought about it a bit this morning and came up with another scenario that choke is useful for. When rigging big wood in the tree you don't have to whip those heavy hooks the whole way around the trunk so there is some time and effort saving in that scenario.

But it's kind of a scary choke for heavy loads as there is no backup should one fail.

 

[classictruckman]

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Your all going to comment on the last pick that the notches are too close to the top, and you're right, I intended for them to be lower, but I was in a hurry and comfortable where they were.

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not knock'n ya but why the colossal waste of time on that pick? all that carving for what? 1 hook cinches up just fine on small verticals like that pine.

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Back when we used steel chokers we didn't worry about cutting notches, but these round slings tend to slip/roll more, and yes I should have cut them prior to the hook coming back but if I remember correctly I was arguing with the operator on whether we needed them or not, He said I was filming so I have a little extra to make them grip.

 

[classictruckman]

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In your opinion, does it offer better balance than just using 2 chokers, set traditionally at 180 degrees opposite each other?

I thought about it a bit this morning and came up with another scenario that choke is useful for. When rigging big wood in the tree you don't have to whip those heavy hooks the whole way around the trunk so there is some time and effort saving in that scenario.


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Yes I find that it balances better than 2 separate slings, and not struggling to throw 2 slings around the log was one of the advantages I was trying to get across last fall.

The disadvantage brought up by Dan Mayer was that you couldn't intentionally pick it unbalanced to make it easier to lay down.

 

[treevet]

I think the boys across the pond HAVE to or used to have to use chain for choked hookups.

Any comment on that Reggo?

 

[Reg]

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I think the boys across the pond HAVE to or used to have to use chain for choked hookups.

Any comment on that Reggo?

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Thats news to me Dave, unless you know something.

All in the past now regardless....not much crane work going on around here!