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cashmoneytreeboy

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noen throw bags from sherrill are the most poorly made bags i have ever laid my paws on,, sure several hits to a driveway or a backyards hardscape will take a toll on any bag ,, but within a month ????/? a throw bag is the first tool i reach for the ,,, day to day ,,, i just want to luanch it then put it away.. i purchesd one and thankfully got two for free,,, i busted two of these dantty colored eggshelled rockets ,,,, huh... in a little less than a month,,, i was only impresed when the stiching busted and i found the lead shot was incased in a ballon "nice effect",,, i have learned a alot from sherrill ,, ripping off ideas ,,,, putting there name it and shuving down the cunsumers throat.... ooooo the grizzly splice where did u steal that one from tobe???
what happend to fresco???????/




dont waste your time or money on this one
 
i have a couple of these bags and i agree, they break way to easy, but, sherrill does stand by its word to replace them when broken, i have broken 6 all together, and they sent me new ones before i even sent the old ones back to them

the balloon you are talking about is the "new" design of theres, it is supposed help distribute the effects of the hit through out the bag, the balloon has never broken for me, just the outside, always on a seam, just about always in the same place

this rant has been posted else where on the buzz with very similar problems and a simple solution, dont buy the neo bags, buy a harrison rocket, here is the link

http://www.treebuzz.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=102220&an=0&page=0#102220

there is another one where tobe address the problem, kind of just look around a bit, you wont have a hard time finding other aggravated folks
 
I like the ballon and none that i have used have split. What has broke on the throwbags is the ring that you tie onto. When the throwbag gets caught in a tight crotch the ring has broke when trying to pull it free. But sherrill has always been good about it, as you said sending new ones before the old ones have even been sent back. Good service but should look into improving the product a little.
 
I think the 16s were/are bad as well. I know I personally destroyed three of the 12s with only a couple throws.

It wasn't just the Sherrill bags either. The Rocket Knockoffs that Fresco sold were junk too.
 
Stick to the real-deal Harrison bags. I finally wore out an 8oz. and 10oz. after 2 years. D-ring started ripping out from too much yanking through tight spots.
 
Wow.
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Some of you guys are using bags heavier than 8oz.?
 
I would have a hard time getting any bag lighter than 12oz coming down when throwing in pines and maples. Sometimes i can't even get a 12oz down. Anybody else have these problems?
 
Re: neo throw bags

i dont agree jamin, he is the one who signs off on the product at the end of the day, it is his last name printed loud and clear on these busted bags, and its he who is making all the money from these bags (or at this point probably losing) someone should be held accountable, why wouldnt it be him?

as far as it only being the 12oz bags that bust, ive broken them all, from 8 oz to 16, but, like i said before, they are very good with there returns, heck, if they keep breakin after a month and they have a 6 month warrantee, you just paid 13 bucks for a lifetime of neo bags, the math works out for me,

i am lookin for a harrison rocket though, and with fresco being down and out, anyone got any good ideas on where i can find some?
 
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Depends on the throw line and tree I'm working on. If I'm using slick line then I use a light weight bag (without checking its either an 8 or 10 oz.). If the tree has tight crotches or rough bark then I use the heavier throw line and heavier bag.
 
Re: neo throw bags

I have had 4 12oz balls break. But only one was a rupture, 3 of them got a broken ring.

I emailed them about it and they immediately sent me new ones. I still currently have the old ones sitting on my desk (been to busy to send them back...better get them off tomorrow).

IMO the neon bag are 100 times better then the old ones (other then the rings). I would literally bust the seems in the old ones after 2-3 throws. And I was force to duck tape the balls, just so I had ones to work with.
 
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I would have a hard time getting any bag lighter than 12oz coming down when throwing in pines and maples. Sometimes i can't even get a 12oz down. Anybody else have these problems?

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What size line are you using? Should'nt have a problem with 1.75.
 
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I would have a hard time getting any bag lighter than 12oz coming down when throwing in pines and maples. Sometimes i can't even get a 12oz down. Anybody else have these problems?

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True. Sometimes I have that problem, but not often enough for me to throw a 12oz.
 
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i dont agree jamin, he is the one who signs off on the product at the end of the day, it is his last name printed loud and clear on these busted bags, and its he who is making all the money from these bags (or at this point probably losing) someone should be held accountable, why wouldnt it be him?

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Hmm...Good point. I didn't see it that way
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However, a good idea needs to be protected by patents. If the Newzealander protected himself with a patent, he could have avoided copy cats.

"Imitation is the best form of flattery." I enjoy my Harrison rocket and I know it will outlast the Sherrill version. (Based on the experiences people have been communicating).

I guess the question is to ask is this; Did Sherrill do anything illegal? As I see it, they didn't.
 
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im not complaining about the patent stealing, patents dont transfer across boarders i guess, cause the rocket was patented. so was what sherrill did illegal, no. unethical? you be the judge, business is business, but what can be said, with obvious proof as read here, is that the harrison rocket still holds up better and has a better patent

another good example of corporate piracy is the faltimer cubes, that was patented, and sherrill has the same exact cubes made with there name on it, but because the original patent was not in the US, sherrill was able to copy the cubes and make their own patents here, but if you ask anyone that has used the sherrill cubes, including myself, they arent quite as good as the faltimere cubes, because they fold up with a little gust of wind and the rods pop out of the fabric

now an arguement can be made that by having sherrill make both of these products here in the US, the price is much cheaper because we are not forced to pay the export fees and deal with the dropping value of the US dollar. with this being said, it is nice to only have to pay 13 bucks for a nice throw weight instead of 28 for the rocket, also, being able to pay 30 bucks less for a great throw cube idea is also wonderful, but at what cost?

these two issues, these two product ideas that were takin from other hard working business folk, are the only two reasons i have a hard time doing business with sherrill, and the fact that they force me to look for a better price on more than half of there products, when, in reality, they know they could charge much less on most of there items, but, if your not savy or in a shopping around mood, you are probably going to get ripped off

always check wespurs prices before purchasing something from sherrill, they are almost always lower, and you can use this leverage to lower the price on sherrill, or, go through wespur for the product, because wespur doesnt make YOU the consumer, do the leg work to find a lower price, they do it for you
 
Re: neo throw bags

We'll always be confronted with a trade-off. Business models differ to provide some type of competitive edge. It could be great customer service or easy return policy or diversity of products. Price isn't always king.

Sherrill is trying to gain an edge and there is a market for their approach.

We buy on merit of product and the company selling it to us. Regardless of cost. It is value. Would you pay $28 for a throwball if it lasted as long as 4 bags at $8? Sure, that's value, regardless of what the cost consisted of.
 
Re: neo throw bags

Thanks for the vote of confidence (from those with positive to add). Weaver's working on "our" problem. In the mean time, I indeed take FULL responsibility. SherrillTree remains the only vendor I know of currently providing published warranty on any throw weight. As for the Cube, again, we pay Heinrich (the Falteimer inventor) an agreed upon royalty for every reproduction sold. Perhaps someone can report what Harrison is paying the throw weight's inventor?

As for the Grizzly splice? Pure innovation thanks to The House of Tain, a monster-powered sewing machine and 50-ton, computerized break bed! Thanks to all who've tested samples and provided feedback. BTW, Grizz recently surpassed 116% of Samson's recorded rope tensile strength. How? Stay tuned...

"If you can't find something nice to say, keep your mouth shut."
and
"Never get into a pissing contest with a skunk. Even if you win you loose."
Tut Sherrill 1925-1994
 
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