New Toro Tx 1000 Wide Track

Hey if you are mostly a td co. you have to finish the job. Most co.s are based in td's and diversify. I can do anything a huge co. can do, including the tree health, diagnosis and treatment stuff. If you don't cover all the bases, someone will steal your top clients when they have to do what you can't. You can't expect them to call you back when they have just done business with a COMPLETE tree co. can you?

I think your theory is wrong Royce. Not so much the tools as it is the ability to do it all.
 
treevet said:
Hey if you are mostly a td co. you have to finish the job. Most co.s are based in td's and diversify. I can do anything a huge co. can do, including the tree health, diagnosis and treatment stuff. If you don't cover all the bases, someone will steal your top clients when they have to do what you can't. You can't expect them to call you back when they have just done business with a COMPLETE tree co. can you?

I think your theory is wrong Royce. Not so much the tools as it is the ability to do it all.
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Thats my point. The tools allow you the ability to do it all. We do it all, in regards to tree care and removals. Often I take the crane to the job to remove one large tree on the property. Then spend the rest of the day pruning, soil injecting, cable and bracing, etc. and whatever else is needed. The removals keep the lights on. The pruning and PHC are where the true profits come from. But your right having the skills to do it all and the equipment to allow those skills to flourish is key. BUT!! Knowing how to sell it all is also a key component. I often get called out to remove one tree, that 3 other companies have quoted only to sell the customer on more tree care the other companies never even noticed was right in front of them.
 
treevet said:
Hey if you are mostly a td co. you have to finish the job. Most co.s are based in td's and diversify. I can do anything a huge co. can do, including the tree health, diagnosis and treatment stuff. If you don't cover all the bases, someone will steal your top clients when they have to do what you can't. You can't expect them to call you back when they have just done business with a COMPLETE tree co. can you?
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we don't only do removals... We do it all. From mulching, cabling, bolting, hand snipping ornamentals to the biggest removals around. The only thing we don't do yet, is spraying.

I have a bachelors degree in environmental science, focus on plant biology, soil sciences and ecology. The ISA exam was a joke, passed it 8 or 9 years ago. I let it go cause really did not matter, I'll probably get it again soon... If anyone else around here had it I still would. We do everything all the other guys do around me and much more.
 
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treevet said:
You don't even have a crane son....you couldn't come close to competing with my game. (75' bucket too). We only work in high end neighborhoods...you don't go leaving big turd logs all over the curb and drive away thinking you are done here. Maybe "nobody gives you a run" cause that turf is not that desirable? Just sayin. There is a house right under this td too.

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We specialized for years and still do in high end removals and pruning on waterfronts and other remote areas. Last few years we started getting more equipment and started to market more residential developments, municipalities and commercial work.

Still don't understand how one can compete when you would have to deal with the wood on a 5'dbh Eastern Cottonwood, When your competition has some one taking the wood away for free?

Trees grow over houses here too, and Plenty of high end waterfronts round here. Champlain valley.

You clearly would own it with your amazingness! There are too many trees up here for anyone really to be competing at this stage. Not one company has their own crane or even more then one crew.

As far a leaving a mess on site, we would never...the log truck or other guys that remove our wood for free come the day of or the next day. No one has ever had an issue. Some times we do take the wood away. All depends.

The jobs we don't usually fully clean up from are the ones for organizations with their own equipment and labor, like municipalities and construction companies.
 
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Hi all, new on here.
I'm going to buy a mini track in the next month after iv researched the different models a bit more. Every dealer obviously points out why theirs is the best, and some non biased feedback would be real handy.
So far I've narrowed it down to the Vermeer S800tx (36hp diesel) or the Ditch Witch SK755.
I have looked at this Toro to, but even though the lifting capacity seems pretty spectacular, with such a small engine compared to the other 2, I wonder wether it all fizzles out when trying to take that weight up a hill, also being a lighter machine, with a heavier possible load you'd think it would pitch forward easier if the pointing down hill.
If anyone has used all machines, It would be good to hear your advice.. Thanks
 
It's not so much the engine hp as you might think...look at what the hydraulic pump is rated for. I believe the Toro has a 15.5 gal pump to compensate. Plus it is the only one you don't have emissions to deal with. But dealer support is huge. Any one of these machines will work for you.

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TheHarbourist, welcome to TreeBuzz. If you want possibly an alternate suggestion on machine and facts and figures to back it up talk with Carl, (Lumberjack here). He does not sell the DW or Verm that I know of but he knows stats on machines like no one else AND he has run enough equip in real life tree work situations to point out tons of stuff a person might miss at first glance.

On the Vermeer are you aware if their parts for future repairs can be sourced from your local bearing and hydraulic shop? Lots of threads here about having to buy overpriced V proprietary parts.
 
The Harbourist said:
with a heavier possible load you'd think it would pitch forward easier if the pointing down hill.
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Take a heavy load down a steep hill backwards.

The Dingo has multiple pumps and....as mentioned the hp's are drastically influenced by the lack of need for emissions on the Dingo. I am on my 2nd Dingo, the first being the top of the line 525 tx diesel. I have not run a DW or SK and I am sure they are good from what I've heard...but no dealers around here and Dingo service is great and dealer about 5 miles from here. Big factor. Vermeer is famous for lots of downtime in the shop on the forums.

Buy a narrow track or you will find yourself standing by a gate you coulda got thru feeling real disappointed in yourself as all the wood is on the other side.

Lumberjack won't know nearly as much as real tree guys that run them in the real world.
 
I (don't really) wonder how much work I have to do and for how long before I can be a "real tree guy." $800k since 2013 must not be enough, sadly I don't remember the numbers from the decade of tree work before then, but I'm sure it's not enough.


I do wonder why a guy twice my age has so much negative energy towards me... I have a couple theories.


Unless you need 36" access, I would strongly suggest considering the wide tracks for better floatation and turf friendliness, especially with a load.
 
TheHarbourist, being new on here you may not know yet that there are some handy ways to search out past information posted here. One is to go to the 'search bar' and type in different things that might get what you want - "Vermeer 800SX", "Vermeer mini skid", "Best mini skid", etc.

Also you can search a persons previous posts if you like the type of information they convey for instance, or if you just want to use it as a measure of the man to find out what value to put on his written words. Click on Lumberjack's name and go to and select his previous posts, read 10 or 20 of them. Now click on Treevet's name and do the same.

Sorry if you already knew all this. I came to this forum and am just learning.
 
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Click on Lumberjack's name and go to and select his previous posts, read 10 or 20 of them. Now click on Treevet's name and do the same.
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Or maybe click on LJack's name and see he has been a member since 04 and has 201 likes. Then click on Treevet's name who has ran his own highly successful business since 1969 and been a member since '07 and has 1,066 likes.

He'll, LJack, likely consider this "negative energy" generated from me....to him tho so...ahhh...nevermind.
 
No doubt you're the better internet tree guy. You were nearly three times my age in '07 and still over twice my age now. Please feel free to belittle me if it makes you feel better about your situation.
 
Wasn't that "negative energy" generated FROM YOU to ME?

ps...I am not your normal 67 year old. I am a 67 year old production tree man. Aren't you just a tree equipment salesman? Maybe I missed something here....and on fbook.
 
Lumberjack said:
No doubt you're the better internet tree guy. You were nearly three times my age in '07 and still over twice my age now. Please feel free to belittle me if it makes you feel better about your situation.
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treevet said:
Wasn't that "negative energy" generated FROM YOU to ME?

ps...I am not your normal 67 year old. I am a 67 year old production tree man. Aren't you just a tree equipment salesman? Maybe I missed something here....and on fbook.
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My Snelling Detector is going off, but I don't know which one...
 
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