New OSHA Directive

Re: Response to Nick\'s comments

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The following is from Peter Gerstenberger of the Tree Care Industry Association. It is his response after reading what Nick wrote. I am posting this with his permission:

"Nick IS on to something. It's called due process - where the affected party gets a say in the laws that regulate them. Unfortunately the way their procedures are set up, OSHA can circumvent due process when they write a directive. I and others have written reams of stuff like Nick wrote. It falls on deaf ears. "

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Hmmm....what does that tell ya about these starched shirt beurocrats that prolly never got or get their hands dirty?


I think we all comprehend what that ludicrous directive was saying....and it is just about 100% BS.....of the stinkiest variety yet.

Need I embellish a bit more?


Orrrrr..if there is any way an avalanche of letters from the field...anonymous if need be, could help, let us know, Tim....Heck, I think even I could mayyyyyybbeeee write something tactful.....
 
Re: Response to Nick\'s comments

anyone ever use the ball made by Tidano? Looks like a
"bullet". Two side access holes where a cambium saver can be slid through. All the pins are protected from tree branches etc.....A friend of mine subtitutes the lock pins for an actual pad lock....a little more piece of mind.
 
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Can you post a link or pics of the Tidano ball?

When I Googled Tidano I didn't find much...besides a link to your Utube and a thread on TB :)
 
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I have said it a bunch but here goes.

I think being tied into the ball, not above it, is safer because thats the way the manufacturer of that ball says it should carry loads. If they designed it differently so that you could put the load/sling anywhere on the load line it would be different but they didn't. Plus this keeps you, and your line below the ball and all the spinning the ball naturally does. makes it much easier on the climber IMO.

Do a search I have said more, and more in depth on this subject alot.

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I think you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

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Norm, on one of my crane operator's 23 ton crane, you can't tie in above the ball, as it spins when loaded and unloaded.....
It's perfectly safe, imo, and no different than tieing in above, if done the way he has it set up, which is the same as bostonbull does it....

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Another reason the ANSI wasnt fully thought out with the tieing in above the ball. What about crane co.s/owners still using spin cable as Roger has mentioned? This stuff spins, will spin you up like a mummy if the load is realeased fast, much like when setting a pick down in tree work.
 
Re: Response to Nick\'s comments

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here ya go...
this is operative #9

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very cool! Whats that ball weigh? is it to be used with regular no spin cable, or does it use a special attachment?
 
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here ya go...
this is operative #9

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very cool! Whats that ball weigh? is it to be used with regular no spin cable, or does it use a special attachment?

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same as normal ball I think.....not sure what it weighs=heavy as shat?
 
Re: Response to Nick\'s comments

That's WAYCOOL.


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Re: Response to Nick\'s comments

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Bivy

Is that you or one of your female climbers?

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yep....she is learning. Right now see rides &amp; rigs. She is pretty much up for anything so far. I wish I had the collection agent working for me........I know the pic will get me in trouble, who cares
 
Re: Response to Nick\'s comments

Tim, any new info on this situation? Have you heard anything more from the OSHA folks that were at the crane workshop?
 
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