new lanyard?

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I'm going to get a new lanyard but wanted to ask what other like best first.

I have been using a 2 in 1, and was planning to just take a peice of rope with hand splices on each end and put a prusik in the middle. This is what I have been climbing with for the past 5 years.

Anyway, any recommendations and suggestions is always appreciated!
 
i use a prussik with a micro pulley and carabiner with arb master. simple and awesome!
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Shunt Lanyard

I have never been satisfied with the DEDA deal with a prussik and a pulley, the idea of one of the snaps being able to "run" the prussik in the event of being weighted never appealed to me.

Always a fan of mechanical aids and and cams i really like the simplicity of a gibb-like adjuster on a lanyard. I used to use a home-made Petzl Grillion, basically a grigri and a length of old rope when i worked on the towers but it just doesnt cut it in the tree. I tend to use an alternate lanyard climbing technique alot in the tree and often like to switch from one lanyard to another interchangably with a climbing line. The idea of using two lanyards each with a mech adjustuster just doesnt appeal to me because of the clunkiness etc.

Currently I use a petzl shunt ( http://www.treestuff.com/news.asp?news_id=55 ) with about 12' of 11mm rope doubled through it and a snaphook on each end. With a blue and a red snaphook i know that the blue hook is the rope coming out of the top of the device as it is oriented to me in the tree and the red is the bottom one. it is really easy to tighten and loosen both under load and not. I like that one end can be lengthened or shortened without changing the other side, this does involve releasing the load but it is as simple as lifting your hips while standing on a branch or your hooks or whatnot. I attached the device to my right d ring with one of those nifty twisted shackle deals to get it to orient so the ropes exit the device perpendicular to my body standing up straight.

If both ends of the lanyard are pulled out all the way it causes the "belly" of the rope system which comes out the back of the shunt to get pulled in pretty tight to the device so i just hooked a quick link on there which gives me something to grab/loosen with and keeps the soft side of the rope away from the workings at the back of the device.

This is from a post I did over at the Treehouse.
http://masterblasterhome.com/showthread.php?15313-Lanyard-Innovations

I have been using this setup for quite a while now and I can not say enough good stuff about it.
 

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Well I am a guy that tries to mix things up. I have made a good few lanyards and even bought a CE lanyard ( which I did not like at all, dismantled it and most in my junk box except the shiny green pinto which ain't so shiny no more and I gave away the thimble and biners ). I really don't like DMM biners except the revolvers. Rock Exotica and Petzl ovals for me. Well I started with gibbs ascender and then moved to prussic pulley with micro mouse. That has now evolved to the pinto prussic combo and any half inch 12' line with the aluminium snap biner. This set-up works for me down here. I also have some velocity lanyards set-up in the same way that I use when I need a change. Here is a pic, one on the TM and one on the Sequoia. No offence to anyone liking the CE lanyard it just was not my thing.
 

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That is a clever use of the Shunt. I'm going to look that over and probably make one up. DEDA really shines in thick branched trees.

Here's what I've been using for a while.
 

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Tom, the ISC Swivel... That connection that is on the spine, It looks like a sewn captive eye.. Is that the end of your lanyard just attached to stow?

I think that the Shunt makes the perfect lanyard adjuster. You can use two separate ropes, even with different colors if thats your thing. I tried it with two ropes but quickly found that having a bunch of swinging ends just got tiresome. The u-loop or whatnot seems like it would be a hassle but it really isnt. Plus it allows you to have 2 6' lanyards which is what I really use the most, but when I need an 8' or a 12' I can easily shorten one to make the other the length I need.

If I need something longer than 11' or 12', which is rare I just use my climbline.

You can see in the picture I use a twist-shackle for attachment. I recently replaced that with one of those nylon deals, like a quickdraw from rock climbing: https://www.treestuff.com/store/catalog.asp?category_id=223&item=1509 and I did not like that one bit. It put the adjuster way out in front of me and made it twist up and ultimately the cam didn't grab as hard and slipped, plus it got tangled with my ropebridge and climbline and basically it didn't work at all. A biner and a quick link did the same thing. So back to the twist shackle, which works fine.

Basically thats my only disappointment, sometimes I wish I could detach it and hook it up to my bridge or the rings on the bridge so I could suspend under a branch from the seat part of the harness as opposed to the dee's.

What I do in that case is this; I pull slack so the lanyard is as long as I need then clove hitch a biner and clip to the middle hole of the HC pulley, wrap the lanyard around the branch and then clip the snap to the biner. It isn't easily adjustable like that but I have only had to do that once or twice I think and it lets me sit suspended under branches to thin to limbwalk out onto for pruning.

Other than that I really like it and one of the guys on my crew put the same system together and he loves it as well. I have used Blaze, Sterling HTP, and old rock ropes. 11mm definitely works the best IMO.

Let me know if you try it out though.
 
The stitched eye is just for storage. I milked out the core and cut it off. Then I hot cut the end of the sheath to seal it before stitching it shut. NOT MEANT FOR LIFE SUPPORT!!!
 
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Wait you paid almost $200 for a pinto pulley, two snaps, a OP eye&eye and 15' of rope?

I like the shiny gear and all but I cant get behind that, especially if you are not using the part that they represent as the innovation.

You dont even really need a pulley, If you just tie a beeline to your dee and put a VT on the rope and run the rope through the dee, then the dee will tend the VT for you...
 
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Wait you paid almost $200 for a pinto pulley, two snaps, a OP eye&eye and 15' of rope?

I like the shiny gear and all but I cant get behind that, especially if you are not using the part that they represent as the innovation.

You dont even really need a pulley, If you just tie a beeline to your dee and put a VT on the rope and run the rope through the dee, then the dee will tend the VT for you...

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It depends on how you use your lanyard. I climb srt but will often use the CE lanyard as a second rope for a temporary ddrt system or chocking it through the thimble to use the full 15ft length in srt mode. When you use it this way a pulley is as essential as having it in your main system and the pre spliced thimble attachments are very useful and compact. I really like mine and I don't regret buying it one bit.
 
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I am with you on that, and I like that you can use it as a temp SRT or DRT system. He said that he removed the prussick with the thimble used for choking it, which basically makes it a single lanyard with a pulley and hitch right? IMO that isnt worth the $200.

If I ever need an extra or independent system I have a grigri and spare rope lengths for a quick SRT and extra hitch setups for a DRT if necessary (or just rope and a bowline>blakes)

It comes down to what you like, a splice costs more than a knot but its nicer right? When I made my first shunt lanyard I used a 2 ended spliced line from ABR, it was really nice, but I cut it accidentally and didnt want to spend the $$ again, so back to knots.

I am not against the item because of the cost, I like luxury and smoothness and will pay for it for sure, it just doesnt seem like that big of a difference in function to me.

It looks like a nice piece of hardware for sure though, but I like my double sided deal.
 
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yeah I really like the splices on it. funnily enough in my main climbing system nothing is spliced but I don't care because its srt and even the hitch cord with fisherman's has more room on a HC. I do like the splices on the CE because the same set up with knots would be pretty bulky. I do admit that its a bit of a luxury though.
 
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I'm going to get a new lanyard but wanted to ask what other like best first.

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I'm currently on a petzl grillon, but I'm not happy with it.

I had a Gibbs ascender which was great for tending slack, but, I couldn't release the slack when the lanyard was in tension. I invested in a simple 2 in 1 lanyard which was used a couple of days. Next, I tied a mt to my D-ring which allowed me to tend slack and extend rope with tension in the system. (I learned this through these discussion forums.) This system has worked best for my climbing style.

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I have been using a 2 in 1, and was planning to just take a peice of rope with hand splices on each end and put a prusik in the middle. This is what I have been climbing with for the past 5 years.

Anyway, any recommendations and suggestions is always appreciated!

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Use a prusik cord no matter how you set it up. A Machard Tresse hitch may satisfy your need to use a 2:1 lanyard.

Joe
 
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