money-hourly-rate-time-opportunity cost.

[treehumper]

Evo, can you describe how you relate it to those? Maybe not as eloquently as Jem mind you…

 

[evo]

In short, all three examples I gave have fast paced on the fly decision making skills that effect the out come of the goal. Each individual has to be tuned in to the greater whole, all the while making decision on the fly or just reactionary. All of which have high consequences of poor judgement, be it train wrecking the crew, or accidents. Sure sports teams do amazing work together, but the bar isn't set so high. Another difference is we do this day in and day out, the stress of always being on your game, mentally present, and aware is much different than getting pumped up for a game or two a week. That is the zen of tree work for me, I've trained myself not to care about the fight I got in with my wife, my kid acting out, or any of the other mental chatter, or crap. While I'm at work its only the here and now mental mindset.

 

[AspenArbo]

In short, all three examples I gave have fast paced on the fly decision making skills that effect the out come of the goal. Each individual has to be tuned in to the greater whole, all the while making decision on the fly or just reactionary. All of which have high consequences of poor judgement, be it train wrecking the crew, or accidents. Sure sports teams do amazing work together, but the bar isn't set so high. Another difference is we do this day in and day out, the stress of always being on your game, mentally present, and aware is much different than getting pumped up for a game or two a week. That is the zen of tree work for me, I've trained myself not to care about the fight I got in with my wife, my kid acting out, or any of the other mental chatter, or crap. While I'm at work its only the here and now mental mindset.

Great point. And to that I would add, that is why we don't or shouldn't work on a clock or any type of time schedule. As soon as speed or a timeline is entered into the mix, the chances of potentially fatal mistakes increases substantially.

 

[treehumper]

There is always a clock, like it or not. It could be just the duration of sunlight in the day that sets the deadline.

 

[JontreeHI]

Great point. And to that I would add, that is why we don't or shouldn't work on a clock or any type of time schedule. As soon as speed or a timeline is entered into the mix, the chances of potentially fatal mistakes increases substantially.

I have a lot of respect for your perspective based on your posts, but I would question how realistic this is in an average production setting. I think I've only worked for/with one guy who woks like this day in and day out. Maybe another actually now that I really think.
But I do agree with you, proper tree care takes as long as it takes. It would be nice to see this mindset prevail