Mitt Romney

http://www.wnd.com/2002/06/14285/
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Poor tai tree? dude save your pity ! i dont need your patronizing tone!!! I find in the grand scheme of this site your demeaning tone and intolerance of others views to be a net negative!! State your opinions,back them up with facts ,,,,where possible and wait for a retort....All of the other stuff is low brow!
You are not the only one who reads around here my good man!!
carry on
 
You remind me of all the other low info tea partiers out there Taitree.

They never let historic facts get in the way of their fantasies.

Tea partiers that nap on busy sidewalks are just beggin to get tread upon.

James Kennedy? Any kin to Jimmy Swaggart?

jomoco
 
as you are a typical leftist...who, when they cannot win on the battlefield of ideas try to discredit their oposition....in the world of logic,reason,philosophy and the ability to debate ideas you are quite frankly not that good!!
This thread is supposed to be about Romney . I am a little embarrassed that i actually empower you to drag me into these meaningless discussions.
I pity and pray for you ..as i do most pathetic people. You should watch a Tony robbins tape or something. Youre so negative ....oh and tea party obsessed...you could prolly take a pill for that.
Hate weakens your soul me dear man....youve cleary got issues.
 
http://mp3bear.com/bill-bennett-newt-rediscovers-god-in-america
you dont have to Rip the dude LOOK IT UP !!!stop listening to leftists....DO NOT pay attention to the argument people ...or people who rip this stuff ..prove it or dis prove it to yourself!! Jomoco and the idea that GOd is NOt a part of the founding of the nation is a total lie!
The Soviet union stripped out their history and bun books to erase their history as well....do NOT listen to me!!
http://docs.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/odddayp.html
a Liberal democrat said this.....
BAM!!!
 
God for the founding fathers was not God as evangelical Christians today believe. While it is true that some of the founding fathers were Theists, most were Deists. They understood more than we do today, the dangers of combining a state religion with government. What we have to remember (imhho) is the fact that this country is still an experiment in democracy. As much as we like to think we are doing so much better than past attempts, we are still learning. And we have combined something new - almost a religion unto itself, capitalism, into the mix. And to top it off, some of us have a predisposition to try and link our way of economics to our way of religion - and that is probably not a good thing...

mk
 
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God for the founding fathers was not God as evangelical Christians today believe. While it is true that some of the founding fathers were Theists, most were Deists. They understood more than we do today, the dangers of combining a state religion with government. What we have to remember (imhho) is the fact that this country is still an experiment in democracy. As much as we like to think we are doing so much better than past attempts, we are still learning. And we have combined something new - almost a religion unto itself, capitalism, into the mix. And to top it off, some of us have a predisposition to try and link our way of economics to our way of religion - and that is probably not a good thing...

mk

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good post

the current unthinking belief that capitalism alone can lead to salvation or somekind of future utopia is an illusion based on faith

however it seems capitalism is all we've got at the moment and while it can lift society to great heights of commerce, industry and investment in communities - the downsides can be brutal for many through no fault of their own.

There is no one simple answer


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I've been seeing the fruits of capitalist investment in community. Unfortunately it only lasts as long as it is good for the capitalist not the community and that the community need match dollar for dollar or more the investment. Infrastructure is built at the community's expense with the hopes of tax revenues to support it. In the end the capitalist abandons it for greener pastures despite a good ROI if those other pastures are willing to offer a better deal. Capitalism knows no boundaries, politically and morally.

Oh, and these "captains of industry" are often the "pillars of the community" who will abandon both for a dime more in their own pocket.

I stand firmly in the middle. I think we need to find a way to enrich all of our society not just the few at the expense of the many.
 
The tea party faction has taken over the rational element of the GOP, that is now represented by the Romney Ryan ticket.

How these tea partiers can somehow reconcile any of their stated goals with the basic tenets of Christianity, healing the sick, feeding the hungry, lending a helping compassionate hand to the destitute and helpless, all the things Christ taught and died to achieve, is quite frankly beyond me.

Every stated goal these tea partiers promote is without exception, totally antithetical to everything Christ ever taught and exhorted us to believe in.

Like clean coal, they are a farcical contradiction right from the get go.

That's why the nuns on the bus provide far better Christian leadership qualities than the Romney Ryan ticket any day of the week!

jomoco
 
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In the end the capitalist abandons it for greener pastures

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that is very true, people are left not knowing what the hell to do with their lives when an industry dies due to changing technologies or is moved to another part of the world where the labor is cheaper.

For many people that car plant or factory was their life, their families life, their community's life. The industrialist packs up and moves on and leaves nothing but an empty shell.

Then, many of the workers move to another place to find work, the old community left behind becomes dysfunctional, people feel lost, useless and worse of all, hopeless..... many of them resort to drugs and drink to blunt their senses....crime rises.

This is the brutal side of capitalism, it's not survival of the fittest, it's survival of those who can best adapt to a fundamentally selfish system. To thrive in a capitalist society you have to be selfish to a greater of lesser degree. Unfortunately it seems the more selfish you are the more success you will have. Thankfully many people make a success of this system because humans are fundamentally selfish beings.

It's not called the rat race for nothing.
 
Nothing fundamentally wrong with capitalism. It's a very Darwinian type of economy as mk and grover have alluded to.
Problem for Joe Average is that wealth and power has been accumulated in the hands of the very few, just like in feudal times. Large multinational corporations and the mainly fat rich white guys at the top hold sway over all governments, Republican or otherwise.
Romney is one of them, maybe even a smallish player in that group, but he is their willing servant. He gets richer that way.
 
Lots of complaining griping and bitching about flawed systems of beliefs,money and governance,,,,,.
Ok ......Will one just one of the genius know it alls on here explain the a system that is better or a system in history that has worked to create more opportunity ? and has not wound up thwarting liberty....
I dont know how it is where you work but if you stripped all wealth away and started over evenly....some people would simply outwork others...Wether you were working for food,gold,money,doesnt matter..some will just put more in...What utopian societies have historically done is make it all even ....all throw it in to a commmunal " basket" for re-distribution...ya know to " keep it fair" to "give everyone a fair shot" and what happens is the guy whos working his off and sees the lazy guy next to him get the same for his lousy effort .....hes thinkin....." yeah!! This is paradise all right!!
The system is far from perfect and has flaws...Why? cause we are flawed people... any system will have flaws why??? cause we are flawed people....
cannot wait to see the ideas we come up w to replace capitalism.....if one is better....i in!
 
If you studied history more Taitree, you'd know that the very laws and trade practices of the 50's and 60's that saw the greatest middle class growth and expansion, are the very laws and trade practices we must return to.

Historically, both dems and reps agreed that taxes must be raised to pay the costs of war, rather than burdening future generations with debts that rightfully belong to the generation that started the war.

But today's tea party has proven itself unworthy of their conservative forefathers by adopting GWB's ridiculous belief that taxes can be lowered during wartime. Setting a new precedent in this country that only a neocon true believer can find any mathematical logic in.

You guys act like paying a measly 15% tax rate during a live shooting war is all fine and dandy, completely ignoring the fact that both your fathers and grandfathers paid up to four times as much to win world wars one and two.

Your whole tea party platform is an embarrassment to your own ancestors.

What the heck do you think the very first taxes our founding fathers imposed on this country were, if not a form of redistribution that benefitted the entire country as a whole?

jomoco
 
taitree you are just wasting your time with these people . they are against capitalism . not sure why , capitalism is the solution to poverty . we didnt become a great nation for no reason at all . it is because of our freedoms and liberties . for some reason these people are against profits as though you are getting it from some under handed scheme , not blood sweat and hard work . obamas philosphy is completely unamerican it is plain to see . people like grover would love to see america fail it would give them so much joy . taxes are not the solution and never will be . as you can see everytime you try to talk logic all jomoc can do is spew the same old bs . it is truely a mental disorder . they do not relize how good we have it here . the poor in our country live like kings compaired to elsewhere . mitt romney gave away his inheritance to charity , they probably do not know this and dont care to . mitt has also ran sucessful businesses and created jobs for people. obama has never owned a business . it is so plain to see that they are either complete idiots or they just hate american that much . we are living in dangerous times now .
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