Milwaukee top handle is coming

evo said:
Any comparison to the husky batt saw?
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not from me. I haven't used the husky. I've used the stihl msa 161T a good amount and the Milwaukee buries it. I don't know if that's a fair comparison though because the 161T feels like it was designed for pruning. The Milwaukee feels like its designed to get whatever the bar fits into done. If I did mostly pruning, I would seriously look at a lighter saw. If I were doing a mix or pruning and removals, the Milwaukee might stand out because I can always put a lighter battery in it if need be. The advertised weight on the Milwaukee with the 14" bar is 8.2lbs without battery. 10.8 lbs with.
 
ATH said:
The review states:
"...this chainsaw operates at around 15 meters per second (that’s around 49 feet per second). That’s not as fast as many gas-powered top handle chainsaws—which is where most of the complaining comes from online (we know who you are!) What Milwaukee does, however—like most battery-powered saws we’ve seen and used—is drop the speed and give you torque. That means you don’t really see the chain speed drop very much as you go through the cut. It’s very confident."

FWIW:
Makita XCU08 claims chain speed of 3940 feet per minute. That translates into 65.7 feet per second.

Husqvarna T540i XP (battery saw) is 78.7 FPS
Husqvarna T540 XP II (gas) is 63.6 FPS

A quick search didn't turn up chain speed for a 201T...or torque specifications for any of those



I've assumed, based on use, that Makita gave up torque for chain speed. This Milwaukee better have some serious torque to give up that much speed.
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New Makita 40v is supposed to do like 80 fps.
 
colb said:
Milwaukee - on an 18V system - has slow chain speeds, acceptable torque, narrow kerf chains, and long battery usage. No surprise there.
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Milwaukee makes great tools/batteries. Would be interesting to compare the two. I have Makitas 40v drill and it's a notable improvement over the 18v as far as torque, rpms, and battery life. Also have the 18v chainsaw, was considering getting the 40v but interested to hear more bout this Milwaukee.
 
Phil said:
not from me. I haven't used the husky. I've used the stihl msa 161T a good amount and the Milwaukee buries it. I don't know if that's a fair comparison though because the 161T feels like it was designed for pruning. The Milwaukee feels like its designed to get whatever the bar fits into done. If I did mostly pruning, I would seriously look at a lighter saw. If I were doing a mix or pruning and removals, the Milwaukee might stand out because I can always put a lighter battery in it if need be. The advertised weight on the Milwaukee with the 14" bar is 8.2lbs without battery. 10.8 lbs with.
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10.8#s is ms261 (50cc saw) weight range. Yikes!
 
Barc Buster said:
Yep and the 2511 is 5#s or a little over. Don’t get me wrong I’m all about hitting the button for instant go time with the battery saws. They just aren’t there yet for power to weight. And @Phil I appreciate the review on the Milwaukee.
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I feel like Milwaukee could really nail the power to weight with a direct competitor to the 2511t. The 18V system is a tad small and thus more suited for smaller tools like a reduction pruning saw. Milwaukee is always making better technology to squeeze more from 18V. Reduction pruning saws are just a small market, though, and it seems like most companies feel like they have to tackle the ms201t to get respect. Having said that, Echo did not tackle the ms201t - they went after the ms151t and look at their success. Husqvarna went head to head with the 201t and did very well. I feel like Husky is going to clearly beat out this iteration of the Milwaukee tophandle. For me, I'm still wanting to buy Milwaukee tools - chainsaws included - because the Superhawg has a clutch. Talk about a single-issue voter, lol. I'm happy with whatever tophandle they put out because it's better than none, but I'd be happiest with a 2511t competitor. Just waiting to retire my 2511t when I don't have to pull a chord while finessing my 200 pounds in small wood... This Milwaukee saw doesn't look like it will retire my 2511t.
 
Barc Buster said:
10.8#s is ms261 (50cc saw) weight range. Yikes!
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Yep that's to heavy.
colb said:
I feel like Milwaukee could really nail the power to weight with a direct competitor to the 2511t. The 18V system is a tad small and thus more suited for smaller tools like a reduction pruning saw. Milwaukee is always making better technology to squeeze more from 18V. Reduction pruning saws are just a small market, though, and it seems like most companies feel like they have to tackle the ms201t to get respect. Having said that, Echo did not tackle the ms201t - they went after the ms151t and look at their success. Husqvarna went head to head with the 201t and did very well. I feel like Husky is going to clearly beat out this iteration of the Milwaukee tophandle. For me, I'm still wanting to buy Milwaukee tools - chainsaws included - because the Superhawg has a clutch. Talk about a single-issue voter, lol. I'm happy with whatever tophandle they put out because it's better than none, but I'd be happiest with a 2511t competitor. Just waiting to retire my 2511t when I don't have to pull a chord while finessing my 200 pounds in small wood... This Milwaukee saw doesn't look like it will retire my 2511t.
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Are you using the cordless super hog and do you use it with your grcs? If so how's it working out, I've been considering buying one for my grcs since I already have a large number of millwakee batteries.
 
I am Vicente. Very happy with the cordless Hole Hog ....until I lifted several heavy limbs out over High Power Lines while another climber rigged them. The HH powered out at some point (1K lbs ?) and I had to go to arm jellying hand crank at the end of a number of lifts.

Then I saw Muggs put up a video of the Hole Hog lifting right at 1 K lbs while the Makita double battery could lift right at 2 K lbs. Not sure if the Makita has a clutch as mentioned for Hole Hog in post above.

I resisted buying a Makita that was on sale but if I did big lifts a lot I would pay full price for one in a heartbeat.
 
Vicente said:
Yep that's to heavy.

Are you using the cordless super hog and do you use it with your grcs? If so how's it working out, I've been considering buying one for my grcs since I already have a large number of millwakee batteries.
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I have not bought it yet because I've been able to use my corded superhawg from outlets. I used to use a generator with it, but now that does not make sense. I took a county job in November and we don't brace, so I'm not sure if I'll get a side job with a friend or not ever end up with a cordless superhawg. But I bought all my Milwaukee lithium tools based on the superhawg clutch that I use on the corded model.
 
I just pre-ordered one. I'm normally not an early adapter...let somebody else figure out if its gonna work! But this is a little too tempting LOL.
 
I got the makita 40v pole saw
I haven't used it much but it seems well built and it zipped through black walnut and Norway maple. So far very happy.

I'd like the top handle but seems too heavy compared to 2511t. I'm hoping they make a smaller version before I buy the 2500t.
 
That for the link to the review @Phil had some decent info....but not a great reviewer. Spent too much time on Chainsaw 101 stuff like chain tension, how an oiler works, and chain catch. Too much time with RPM calculations - just tell me the numbers match up to the book. Also, he's gonna end up with some face scars... holding the chain brake back while running the saw isn't a good plan...neither is starting a plunge cut with the top corner of the bar. But he does show the power of the saw, so that was good!

At the end he covers kits and pricing...I'm a little nervous about what I'm getting now. Acme Tool says the 2826-21T includes both batteries...that's what I bought (and why I bought it). He said that was the 2826-22T kit containing both.

www.acmetools.com

Milwaukee M18 FUEL 14inch Top Handle Chainsaw Kit

Milwaukee M18 FUEL 14inch Top Handle Chainsaw Kit - 2826-21T
www.acmetools.com www.acmetools.com

And screenshot:

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ATH said:
That for the link to the review @Phil had some decent info....but not a great reviewer. Spent too much time on Chainsaw 101 stuff like chain tension, how an oiler works, and chain catch. Too much time with RPM calculations - just tell me the numbers match up to the book. Also, he's gonna end up with some face scars... holding the chain brake back while running the saw isn't a good plan...neither is starting a plunge cut with the top corner of the bar. But he does show the power of the saw, so that was good!

At the end he covers kits and pricing...I'm a little nervous about what I'm getting now. Acme Tool says the 2826-21T includes both batteries...that's what I bought (and why I bought it). He said that was the 2826-22T kit containing both.

www.acmetools.com

Milwaukee M18 FUEL 14inch Top Handle Chainsaw Kit

Milwaukee M18 FUEL 14inch Top Handle Chainsaw Kit - 2826-21T
www.acmetools.com www.acmetools.com

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Bummer on the part number thing. Could be the suppliers fuckup, and I’d ask them and they should make it right for you
 
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I'll be in touch with them if it shows up with one battery. I've also screenshot my order. It's pretty clear from their description I ordered 2 batteries. Maybe the reviewer had part #s wrong...

It seems like a great deal, but I assumed it was pre-order thing (I ordered a month ago) to drive initial sales which is why I jumped on it. I'll have to reconsider whether I want to spend the money now if it isn't 2 batteries...
 
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