Life in the temperate zone...

I might also add this statement as a general rule in my opion at least. No matter what device you choose always carry a prussik and an f8, and learn to tie a blakes hitch if both of them fail or you drop them. Cheap insurance for when the crap hits the fan but you still need to descend back to the ground.
 
...and Steve just nailed a bunch more of the details...

One more... my short DdRT ZZ system is only 32' of rope... with stopper knot, about 30' so only 15' of usable length. I keep it in a climb bucket and take it up all the time, now. Even though I also take a long lanyard (Zillon) and a short lanyard (Trango Cinch) as well. Crazy as it sounds, I use it all the damn time to give me two (or three with the long lanyard) points of attachment so I can, for example, get out alongside of a large limb to make the face cut where I can see what I'm doing better, or to position myself in a way that I can make the backcut so I don't get smacked by the piece when it lets go or barberchairs (locust) or if it keeps me out of the way when the piece swings on a rigging line. Sometimes, the most comfortable spot to be is not the safest... I like to try to get to the safest one, and double crotching gives you great control of your body position.
 
Before I forget.... I broke down, and caved in. I bought a damn GoPro camera. I got the little Hero4 Session because I really liked the price and the small size. Of course, I couldn't live with not being sure where it is pointed, so we went up to my cell phone provider and added some more GigaButtHertzBytes to the data plan, and I got an Android tablet... a Samsung Galaxy Tab E 8" 1.2 gigahoozle quad core, 1.5gb RAM and 16gb of flash memory. Front and rear cameras and all that happy crappy. Installed the GoPro app and gotta say... it's almost like having a freakin' desktop PC in the palm of your hand. Almost. But, seriously... this is some cool shit. Tried hooking it all up to the dog for some live action tree pissin' and shit sniffin' video, but that didn't work out as planned. Wouldn't stay on top of the dog, or facing forward. All I got was footage of the dog's balls jangling as he ran from tree to tree. Not very entertaining.

I've got several video editing programs, so have some serious work to do to get used to that. Not too bad, I think. I'm used to recording with a DAW and there are some similarities to the editing process, so I'm hoping the learning curve won't be too much for an old fart. I will do my best to get it all figured out before you guys are all collecting Social Security and living in an old folks home. Don't be too surprised if some of the end results look suspiciously like midget-goat porn. I gotta recover the money I spent on this crap, right?

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Mounted it to a new helmet I put together over the winter. I got some scratches and squirrel poop on the other one, and didn't know if the sticky stuff on the mount would stay put. Besides, I'm probably not going to want the camera-head thing on there all the time... doesn't that get to be a problem, worrying about trashing the GoPro in the tree? Or do you just get used to it? I have no idea how durable these cameras are, but I assume they must be tough or you guys would be bitching about replacing them all the time, right?
 
I've never understood why some folks gave up so easily. It is, indeed, a very sensitive device when you first play with it. But, how do you deal with keeping a hitch from letting go too fast? Simple, wrap your whole hand around it, and feather the top coil. The ZZ is no different. I wrap my hand around it, light pressure on most of the links and feather the release lever to baby crawl it down, for fine control. Stupid simple. I think people are afraid it will pinch their fingers doing this. Ummm... it won't. I play guitar and have an innate concern for keeping all of my fingers intact. I wouldn't do anything that might snip one off or keep me from playing for more than a couple days. I've never pinched my skin between the links, and believe me, I was worried about it at first.

Thanks for this great post, JeffGu. My guts tell me that this is the answer to the complaints that all of the folks not getting along with the device have.

Thanks also go out to Steve and monkeylove for all of their great comments with regard to making the Zig-Zag behave properly.

Tim
 
Yeah, I like just about all this new stuff coming out... but in spite of the ZZ issues, Petzl has done right by dealing with it. Let 'em hate. They are a remarkable piece of engineering, and my favorite tree climbing tool of the bunch.

It is great to hear that Petzl is doing the right thing with regard to their handling of the return and replacement of the older version Zig-Zags. Situations like this can wreck a company if handled poorly, I would think. Seeing Petzl handle this well hopefully encourages folks to continue to buy their products.

Tim
 
Random thoughts about marketing...
There seems to be a universal agreement among humans that they will argue about which brand of anything is the best. If you piled dog turds in a row and painted them different colors, they'd argue for years about which pile smelled better or which pile tasted like a bacon cheeseburger. There's no end to it.

The fact is, every study ever done on product markets shows that what consumers want is variety... regardless of which unbelievable, bullshit lies and propaganda the manufacturers choose to exploit in their advertising (usually due to the perceived lack of integrity associated with marketing/sales/advertising people, who end up deciding this stuff) the consumers want to have choices. In the end, the choices they make often become the "best" choices because it is human nature for them to believe that they don't make bad choices, unless it is the fault of someone else. Surely, if the people at Brand X hadn't lied about their product, I wouldn't have ended up with a product that sucks.

They all, for the most part, make very good products, and occasionally some very bad ones. There are always a few companies who seem to nearly always make good ones, and these are the ones that we all try to concentrate on. There are companies who always seem to make crap, too. Usually it is because they're going after the low budget crowd of consumers who won't ante up with the cash for a product made by the previously mentioned companies. Even these companies seem to be able to make stuff that will work fine for the average homeowner.

When you work in an industry where crap products just won't cut it, then you buy exclusively from the companies that can deliver quality products that last. There still needs to be variety and competition (and there certainly is) but people being what they are, they still argue over which of the best of the best is really the best. Most of the chainsaws I own are Stihl products, but not all of them. I really can't imagine a world in which they were the only choice. I've learned the most about what makes a chainsaw a good one by listening to Dolmar, Husky, Jonsered and Echo fans talk about what they like about those brands of saws... but mostly, I've learned from making a leap of faith and actually going out and buying one made by these other brand names. Of course, I quickly discovered what I knew was probably true, already. These companies all make some damn fine chainsaws. For me, the right saw for a given purpose hasn't always been a Stihl, anymore. I still have to do my research, and choose carefully, but having all these choices is a good thing. It just makes the decision process a little harder.

Of course, that doesn't mean I won't single out some brand as being less than satisfactory. Face it, friends don't let friends buy a Poulan, let alone a... umm... you know.

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AFB came today... it is much larger than I expected. Seems well made, looking forward to trying it out. Although it's as big as a large 3/4" block, it is not nearly as heavy as one... seems like it should handle bigger pieces than the RnW. I think this thing and a butt tie on a large limb, and the RnW with a tip tie on the limb, and the climber and one groundie could ease a pretty good sized limb to the ground gently without it swinging around much at all.
 
Back to your ramblings about brand....I remember when Craftsman hand tools would last a life time and then some, now I won't even shop there. As far as the many colored powered tools available I agree that there are lots of good choices out there now. I have Stihl and Echo but no Huskies. I have used them and think they are good saws also but their handles just don't fit me well. It is a very minor thing and I don't expect them to change it just for me but it shows that there are also wildcards that will always make any BEST product only okay to somebody.
 
Yeah, I can't say anything bad about the Husky saws, either. They just haven't really appealed to me, which is strange when you consider that I used to have a Jonsered that was a great saw that I really liked.

Sears used to contract with very good OEMs to make their stuff... not so much, anymore. I figured it was downhill for them when they switched from using USA companies (Black & Decker, Skil, etc.) for their small power tools, to Ryobi who makes some good stuff, and an awful lot of not so good stuff. They've since gone to some even cheaper, Chinese stuff. I think their glory days are long gone, now. But, lots of the major tool OEMs have been bought up by the Mitt Romney types, and they're slowly ruining those names, as well. Hell, they put Black & Decker's name on coffee pots, urinals and any other cheap, Chinese crap dumped on the docks.

With Porter-Cable, Milwawkee, Bosch and everyone else being bought up by these big investment companies it's only a matter of time before it is all junk. Really sad. I hope the chainsaw companies don't end up that way, as well.
 
Have you used any of the recent Milwaukee stuff, Jeff? We've arrived at that dismal day you predicted. I've purchased a number of my tools on EBay. It takes a little time and effort, but when you need something, say perhaps, a Sawzall, if you do some homework and watch for a while, it'll be worth your while. Someone cleaning out dad's or grandpa's workshop and selling their old, made in the USA Sawzall that came in the steel carrying case (big clue when it comes to Milwaukee stuff), is built like a brick sh*thouse, and still has 40 years of work left in them. Sure it might need a new cord or possible some new brushes, but not only were those tools well built, they were also designed to be repaired and rebuilt. And yes, you can still get all the necessary parts from Milwaukee.

Funny story, a few winters ago I did buy an older but very low milage Super Sawzall on Ebay for $100, including shipping. Love the thing. Anyway, while the seller was highly rated, I missed the fact that he lived in the interior of Alaska. After sending payment, he contacted me and asked if I was in a rush to get it? No, not really, why? "Well, the high temperature this week is only suppose to be -50°F, and I have a 2.5 hour snowmobile ride to the post office, and even if I were to get it there, they stop flying the mail in and out when it's below -30°, so it would just sit there for a couple of weeks...." I said "No problem! Tell you what: You get it to me by, say, September, and I'll still give you 5 stars!" I think afterwards it was even funnier wondering why this guy, a thousand miles away from electricity, had a Sawzall that he decided he really didn't need anymore and Hey! I can make a few bucks if I sell this on EBay! What a strange world we live in.
 
I'm going to assume he has a generator... most of those crazy folks who live in the middle of Alaska seem to rely on them. Still, that's a funny story... never give much thought to just how cold it really gets there. It gets well below 0*F here, occasionally, but it's usually no more than a few days out of the entire winter, and it never gets anywhere near -50*F although -20*F feels plenty miserable enough for my tastes.

I'm very picky about tools, and don't mind researching them for weeks before I buy anything. I have favorite brands, but not one favorite. Just depends on the tool. I still like to pick up an old classic when I spot them at a garage sale or flea market. I have several of the old aluminum case tools from the late 50's and 60's that I've refurbished. One of them I had to rewind the armature by hand... that was a real joy. They're cool, though, and like you said... built to last a lifetime.

Most of mine are Black & Decker / Dewalt, Bosch, Porter-Cable, Hitachi, Milwaukee, Makita, etc. who have all made some really good stuff over the years. I think I have more Porter-Cable stuff than anyone else's.
 
You're not worried about rain intrusion? You could add a visor over it on the outside, or remove the screen and install a pipe elbow on the inside, turned up, if rain becomes and issue.
 
I keep this in my trailer for now. Not as new and shiny but still works well enough for my work. Trailer will hold 2 cubic yards and the chipper. Unloading kind of sucks but I am working on ideas. ElietMajor.webp
 

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