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I'm pretty light (150) plus some geared up, so most of the binding with ice tail I contribute to lots of pine sap... I like the hitch as compact as possible, so I have slowly sheared off an inch or two over the years. All my hitch cords are tied. Pretty cool hearing all the combos for different people, definitely like snowflakes as kevin said!

Oceans, how do you run the legs through the top biner? sounds interesting...
 
I'll try to get a photo, but...have you ever been climbing on a VT in DdRT and have one of the legs of the hitch get stuck under the slack tending pulley?

Well, the solution (WHICH IS ACTUALLY WORSE UNLESS THE HITCH IS LONG ENOUGH) is:

Beginning from scratch:
-tie your hitch as normal.
-put your HC pulley onto the tail of the line.
-install one carabiner into the top eye of the pulley.
-as you bring the pulley and hitch towards eachother, put both hitch eyes through the upper carabiner.
-capture the hitch eyes as normal on the lower biner.

Another way to describe this is that the legs of the hitch will begin at the lower biner and run sort of vertically and run through the upper biner from YOUR side and out the back into the hitch.

Hope it all made sense. If not, I'll try to slap up a photo...
 
This type of thing? Except replace the RW tether with your termination knot/eye. A while back whilst setting up the RW on a 30" OP I found the same thing happened ie a prusik leg was getting caught under the HC every now and again. This solved the issue but so did the use of shorter hitch cord.

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That's funny Kevin because that's what I dislike about hitches, every once and awhile I get one perfect, but then I can never replicate it.

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Me too! That's when I just don't untie it for a while. Don't mess with a good thing. I'm with Bing on this, what works one day won't work right the next. I keep a few different hitch cords on my saddle now'a'days just in case things aren't sitting just right. For some reason they always seem to get tweaky just as I get hoisted by a crane.
 
Here's how I run mine. For me it's more about keeping the legs of the VT/XT hitch aligned than anything else. Once I started doing this I never had the weird VT leg issues.
 
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Uhhh, second try.

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Not a bad idea, but doesn't it make clipping in harder to do? just one more thing to complicate that movement. I'll have to give it a try to see whats all up. I don't have the problem you guys are talking about but would like to get inside your heads.
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I was thinking about all this while working today, and remembered another benefit. When the hitch is loaded it does not pull the climb line out of alignment with the pulley, as a VT will often do when the lowest tresse sort of disappears as the legs straighten. This can keep the climb line from twisting as it runs through the hitch on longer descents.
 
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Uhhh, second try.

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Not a bad idea, but doesn't it make clipping in harder to do? just one more thing to complicate that movement. I'll have to give it a try to see whats all up. I don't have the problem you guys are talking about but would like to get inside your heads.
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It doesn't make it harder because I only clip into the hole on the Hitch Climber once. I roll the biner around so all I have to do when advancing or using the M system is open the gate and pop the spliced eye on. If that's confusing check out the orientation of the biner in my pic.
 
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Uhhh, second try.

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Not a bad idea, but doesn't it make clipping in harder to do? just one more thing to complicate that movement. I'll have to give it a try to see whats all up. I don't have the problem you guys are talking about but would like to get inside your heads.
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It doesn't make it harder because I only clip into the hole on the Hitch Climber once. I roll the biner around so all I have to do when advancing or using the M system is open the gate and pop the spliced eye on. If that's confusing check out the orientation of the biner in my pic.

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X2...In fact, my friction saver incorporates a Wichard snap and doesn't even require anything but the increased diameter due to the splice for retrieval. Set the top biner in once and it never moves until the climb is done. Take it all apart to inspect it, of course...
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Uhhh, second try.

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Not a bad idea, but doesn't it make clipping in harder to do? just one more thing to complicate that movement. I'll have to give it a try to see whats all up. I don't have the problem you guys are talking about but would like to get inside your heads.
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It doesn't make it harder because I only clip into the hole on the Hitch Climber once. I roll the biner around so all I have to do when advancing or using the M system is open the gate and pop the spliced eye on. If that's confusing check out the orientation of the biner in my pic.

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ahhhhhhhhhhh.....right on. slick little trick.
 
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