Knot for hanging block off horizontals

Take the spar mounted to, versus the direction of pull. A Pull direction away from the host/ spar/ mount would be perpendicular/ right angle pull (chapter 21 in ABok). Whereas, a pull direction Pairallell/ inline with the host/ spar/ mount would be a lenghtwise pull (separated into the following chapter 22 in ABoK for good reason).

Really,by the mechanics presented in the above resource, a Timber Hitch is more proper on perpendicular/ right angle of pull. whereby it's close brethren the Killick is proper on a lenghtwise pull.

The reason being, that pulling a Timber perpendicular to mount or load seats the back of the trapping loop inline with the standing; there fore not leveraging the trap weaker (or to higher tension and changing direction).

But if pulling lenghtwise the force doesn't travel inline to the back of the trapping loop to secure (from the standing tension/ mainline). But, place a half hitch or marl preceding on a lengthwise pull, changes the mechanics. Now the main tension is in this preceding part, and the flow of force travels through the precedent and then exits inline to the standing tension part properly. Then the force flow (think of like electrical force flowing thru a wire path) goes to the Timber Hitch part. Now it still will pull perpendicular on this part, leveraging the force that exited the precedent (half hitch or marl) and be leveraged in terms of it, but it would be less force than the standing tension(being less than the initiating force of the standing, would be said to not be leveraged, or at least not leveraged higher etc.), and also a secondary grip.

i believe one going thru ABoK's 2 back to back chapters will show these patterns.
 
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Roger, stillson and cow are 1 and the same. I 1st learned of the stillson in the early 90's from 'Ron Danise'. Now that's a name from the past.

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YMMV, but on this forum in 2005 there was some musing about
the origins of "Stilson" & "Cow & Better Half", implying a
distinction with "Cow", which goes way back.
And that the Stilson hitch is a Cow h. with the end tied
off with a Half-hitch to the mainline.

I've verbally recommended what we might call "Cow and
BEST Half" (devoid of any trace of modesty!
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),
in which the locking HH will encompass one *side* of the
knot vs. merely the mainline--around 2 diameters vs. 1,
and getting a better grip & lock. (In the image below,
the reddened part crosses (from start to end of rope)
over-over-over-under-over-under-over(-over); in the
variation I suggest, it would be O-O-O-U-**U**-U-O(-O);
the "U-U-U" segment encompassing mainline and collar side.)

www.treebuzz.com/forum/images/upload/9073-cow%20hitch2.JPG

is an image of one interpretation of "Stilson h.", yes!?
Mahk, Tom, ..., any further insight to origins?
cf www.treebuzz.com/forum/showflat.php?Number=33346

*kN*
 
A Stillson is just a cow hitch with 2 half hitches to lock it off from any chance of running. It works great it's my go to knot if I ever have to stop and think.
 
Hi all,
Another scenario involves attaching for a right-angle pull, but as a belay. So you can secure an object, and then lower it later, under control. And here a Capstan Hitch (also known as a Steamboat Hitch, among other names) is ideal. It can also be quite grippy, allowing it to be used for some degree of off-angle work, even on relatively slick surfaces.
The Clove Hitch can "walk" right out, particularly on square cross-sections. And the Ring Hitch (Cow Hitch, Luggage Tag Hitch, etc.) can slip. Thus all the variations for them, aimed at increasing security. I think it's all a matter of suiting the knot to the rope to the hitchee to the job.
Fair leads,
Brion Toss
 
a cow and clve were put to a break test each with 2 half hitches and the clove broke first. but mid line and on splits its better than a cow
 
I notice much more elongation when loading a cow with better half perpendicularly. It's a bit unnerving so I try to use a much longer sling in this situation and go generous with additional half hitches to the back side of the bite to keep the tail out of my running rigging and to provide something of a tattle tail. I'd like to know the best way to minimize this elongation. Also. I notice that stable braid dead-eyes elongate more than say ten-ex. I like the ease of use and small diameter of amsteal but for goodness sake the stuff takes on sawdust and particles and does not surrender them easily. Anybody?
 
Yes I think that's a pretty common practice since the cow with a better half is so "rope hungry" but I once had a timber hitch fail when I used it incorrectly. It's not a very multi-directional hitch and loading away from the bite instead of against it is high risk stuff unless you used some preventing variation of the timber hitch which is another technique I'd like to ask the thread about.
 
i perfer the loopie sling cause its easyier and faster to deal with, i also use cow hitch with sometimes two half hitches to shorten the tail but go wiht the loopie when you have alot going on.
 
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