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I understand Guy's concerns, but I don't know on a cut that large how much angling the cut would matter. If he cut into the deadwood only, it's just going to be up to the tree to compartmentalize that dead area; it will eventually decay no matter what, and ultimately will have a cavity at the base of the new top lead, no matter what. Which isn't the end of the world, really. It's just not an ideal situation to have to deal with. I suppose I'd be worried more about what caused the top dieback, was it serious root loss like it usually would be? Were you able to figure out why it died back?
I think personally I would be prone to cutting the dead as much as possible so that new tissue could get around it, and maybe choosing the best new terminal a few years down the road. Tough call, though.
I think personally I would be prone to cutting the dead as much as possible so that new tissue could get around it, and maybe choosing the best new terminal a few years down the road. Tough call, though.
Nice job, and a lot faster with a crane. Even if you did not need it for the next job.
TC
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I never "talk customers into" using a crane. I also don't let them dictate what gear I'll use, what crew I'll use, or what I'll wear that day.
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Confidence or arrogance, Mmmm let me see, think i'll go with the latter rather than the former.
Your choice of pruning is commendable but your on a one way ticket to idiotsville with your reply to some of these posts.
Try to stay calm Mb, you'll give yourself a hernia.
Did I see you downtown today, walking down the street with a brown paper bag with a 40 in it?
I never "talk customers into" using a crane. I also don't let them dictate what gear I'll use, what crew I'll use, or what I'll wear that day.
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Confidence or arrogance, Mmmm let me see, think i'll go with the latter rather than the former.
Your choice of pruning is commendable but your on a one way ticket to idiotsville with your reply to some of these posts.
Try to stay calm Mb, you'll give yourself a hernia.
Did I see you downtown today, walking down the street with a brown paper bag with a 40 in it?
"Grover," you are a blight upon this forum, and it amazes me Tom and Mark even allow you as a member.
No "Grovers" at the Treehouse, rest assured.
No "Grovers" at the Treehouse, rest assured.
TC
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Tom and Mark are my friends, they like me and my childish approach, it gives them a great feeling of well being knowing they are helping a fellow arborist come to terms with his inability to communicate as an adult, and for this I thank them.
Have you tried listening to Motown?
Have you tried listening to Motown?
Why the F do I even bother looking at this forum? Every time I come over here I see nothing but obnoxious, insulting crap. This forum has become as bad or worse than ASite ever dreamed of being. Their moderation was biased and unfair, but at least something got edited or deleted once in a while.
It's been so long since anybody has flushed the toilet around here that the overflow has stained the entire forum. Now it will take a major refurbishment to eliminate the stench.
It's been so long since anybody has flushed the toilet around here that the overflow has stained the entire forum. Now it will take a major refurbishment to eliminate the stench.
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Its a lot easier than that just put him on your ignore list
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It amazes me how much energy some of you put into complaining about each other rather than just clicking into the next thread.
MB, you are a moderator - at your own site. Wouldn't it be redundant to be a moderator here as well?
Grover, don't put words in my mouth. I never said anything of the sort. In fact, I have asked (warned) you to stop insulting people. Take this as my final request to you on that note.
MB, you are a moderator - at your own site. Wouldn't it be redundant to be a moderator here as well?
Grover, don't put words in my mouth. I never said anything of the sort. In fact, I have asked (warned) you to stop insulting people. Take this as my final request to you on that note.
treehumper
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The question then is how did you come to obtain their agreement with the cost? Did it cost more? To me, this is an example of understanding the client and offering a best solution.
allmark
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just curious, and not knocking your methods....but why would someone go to the expense of a crane on a job like that?
[/ QUOTE ] I do it all the time on smaller jobs because it is available. Safer Easier More Efficient. I have my own though so it isnt an added cost because I would also combine it with other work.
just curious, and not knocking your methods....but why would someone go to the expense of a crane on a job like that?
[/ QUOTE ] I do it all the time on smaller jobs because it is available. Safer Easier More Efficient. I have my own though so it isnt an added cost because I would also combine it with other work.
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MB, you are a moderator - at your own site. Wouldn't it be redundant to be a moderator here as well?
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Easypeasy japanesey! I've already banned the trolls at the TreeHouse, and they've migrated here. I would just ban them again.
I'm not as nice of a guy as you! But you've done well banning the main two, good on you! Now, just one or two more to go, and this house will be clean!
MB, you are a moderator - at your own site. Wouldn't it be redundant to be a moderator here as well?
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Easypeasy japanesey! I've already banned the trolls at the TreeHouse, and they've migrated here. I would just ban them again.
I'm not as nice of a guy as you! But you've done well banning the main two, good on you! Now, just one or two more to go, and this house will be clean!
NickfromWI
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Keeping the talk on the discussion at hand, why would anyone ever question the use of the crane AFTER it's been done. A client has the chance to call everyone in the phone book. Sometimes they do. When you go there to bid a job, you're not telling them the BEST way to get the job done...you're telling them the best way you THINK the job should be done.
If you tell them it'll be a charge of $30,000 for half a days work, and they do their homework and get a couple of much cheaper bids, and then end up hiring you ANYWAYS, then obviously it is worth it to them.
Some people don't want to do the homework. They'll pay what ever half-seemingly-reasonable price you give them. For the, the value is in getting the job done fast and smooth, rather than cheap.
Isn't that an AC/DC song? "Dirty deeds done swiftly, properly, and at a premium price"
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nick
If you tell them it'll be a charge of $30,000 for half a days work, and they do their homework and get a couple of much cheaper bids, and then end up hiring you ANYWAYS, then obviously it is worth it to them.
Some people don't want to do the homework. They'll pay what ever half-seemingly-reasonable price you give them. For the, the value is in getting the job done fast and smooth, rather than cheap.
Isn't that an AC/DC song? "Dirty deeds done swiftly, properly, and at a premium price"
love
nick
guymayor
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I'd be worried more about what caused the top dieback, was it serious root loss like it usually would be? Were you able to figure out why it died back?
[/ QUOTE ]MB did not because he is a contract climber and not assigned to manage the subterranean half of the tree. If the company and its owner did not work with the roots, they are not a tree service company, but a wood service company.
When reducing trees that are in decline, I thought the point was to cut back to a vigorous lateral, and NOT into dead wood. That way you can get some closure, if the roots are functioning...
Tom and Mark, sorry you have to bother with mopping up the nonsense.
I'd be worried more about what caused the top dieback, was it serious root loss like it usually would be? Were you able to figure out why it died back?
[/ QUOTE ]MB did not because he is a contract climber and not assigned to manage the subterranean half of the tree. If the company and its owner did not work with the roots, they are not a tree service company, but a wood service company.
When reducing trees that are in decline, I thought the point was to cut back to a vigorous lateral, and NOT into dead wood. That way you can get some closure, if the roots are functioning...
Tom and Mark, sorry you have to bother with mopping up the nonsense.
treehumper
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lawyers need to have a convincing argument for spending the money. Got to sway the jury!
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